Outed cards, now including a 130K gain on an Aaron rookie

[Peter_Spaeth]

Every time you see another outed card, a whole sub is underneath it. Keep that in mind when people try to spin this.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Bumping this. If people care, I would encourage you to check your cards against this list and keep in mind new certs are being outed every day, meaning the underlying subs including those certs are at least in doubt. Unless and until we get comprehensive lists from PWCC or PSA, people are going to have to do their own diligence, if it matters to them. If it seems overwhelming, limit the focus to significant cards purchased from PWCC.

[Misunderestimated]

I was always curious about why so many cards consigned to PWCC were newly graded.....

[Bram99]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Bumping this. If people care, I would encourage you to check your cards against this list and keep in mind new certs are being outed every day, meaning the underlying subs including those certs are at least in doubt. Unless and until we get comprehensive lists from PWCC or PSA, people are going to have to do their own diligence, if it matters to them. If it seems overwhelming, limit the focus to significant cards purchased from PWCC.

Can someone design an app or a spreadsheet that we can all use to plug in our cert numbers and the app or spreadsheet would turn back any matches to cards on the suspect list? Surely with all of the brain power we have someone on this board or BO cards can do this...

[Republicaninmass]

Probably bought 4 or 5 cards from pwcc, all low grade. Funny my co assignments didnt get much action. It must have been lack of eye appeal, or no chance to improve them

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Probably bought 4 or 5 cards from pwcc, all low grade. Funny my co assignments didnt get much action. It must have been lack of eye appeal, or no chance to improve them

This consignor must have been happy. This card is, to put it mildly, abundant in PSA 10 and sells for 125-150. There are probably 5+ BINs on ebay right now at this price. PWCC sold one for over 400.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1989-Score-...p2047675.l2557

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

That's one thing I've never understood. They sell so many cards that are what I call commodity cards at non-commodity prices. What possible reason is there for their PSA 10 (one of hundreds if not thousands, I'm too lazy to look it up) to sell for a multiple of anyone else's PSA 10. ESPECIALLY at a PSA 10. There's not supposed to be a lot of variation in 10's (besides altered and un-altered) I mean there is no sticker for a high-end 10, right?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

That's one thing I've never understood. They sell so many cards that are what I call commodity cards at non-commodity prices. What possible reason is there for their PSA 10 (one of hundreds if not thousands, I'm too lazy to look it up) to sell for a multiple of anyone else's PSA 10. ESPECIALLY at a PSA 10. There's not supposed to be a lot of variation in 10's (besides altered and un-altered) I mean there is no sticker for a high-end 10, right?

I have no idea. But of course we see these record-obliterating, inexplicable prices all the time from PWCC, and inevitably someone comes on to defend them, so I'll wait.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

This consignor must have been happy. This card is, to put it mildly, abundant in PSA 10 and sells for 125-150. There are probably 5+ BINs on ebay right now at this price. PWCC sold one for over 400.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1989-Score-...p2047675.l2557

It's a ruse to find new unbeknownst consignors, new material for moser to work on, and commissions to be collected. .I knew it, but had to see for myself. It's ok if the winning bidder is the consignor and planned on paying, right Betsy?

[Rhotchkiss]

Some recent vintage PWCC prices compared to immediate comps. These were cards I was watching (and in the case of the Brown Lenox, that I won), which sold in this past auction for less than recent prior sales. There are many more -- as I watched many T206's and early cards sell for relatively cheap in this auction. Perhaps it was because of all the trimming/altered press. Perhaps its because nobody shilled these cards. I don't know, but the point is that while so many PWCC cards go for crazy prices (and I can name a few other AHs where that seems to happen), not all cards do. Spend what you are willing to spend; that's what I do and why I rarely am the high bidder on PWCC auctions.

1. T206 McQillan w/ bat, Brown Lenox, PSA 1: sold at PWCC for $8,600 was previously sold by REA on 10/28/18 for $9,000

2. E106 wagner Batting, PSA 5: sold at PWCC for $8,200, was previously "sold" by Mile High for $9k+ on 6/10/19 and for $10k+ on 12/16/18

3. E98 Cobb, Red, PSA 9: Sold at PWCC for $29.5k -- According to VCP, there have been 14 sales of E98 Cobb PSA 9s since 2013, and only once did an example sell for less than then PWCC one. t

4. E104-1 Mack SGC 1 ("Worlds Chanls"): Sold at PWCC for $355. Prior to that the same card sold at PWCC in February for $598, and before that, the same card traded at Mile High and Greg Bissneau (in 2014 and 2010, respectively) for approx $600.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Bram99

Can someone design an app or a spreadsheet that we can all use to plug in our cert numbers and the app or spreadsheet would turn back any matches to cards on the suspect list? Surely with all of the brain power we have someone on this board or BO cards can do this...

Does "find on page" work with the forum where they're posted? That would be the simplest way.