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Sadly when folks buy flips instead of actual cards this is what you get.
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The color on the 5, if that's an accurate scan, is weak. The face and hands lost all their vibrancy.
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Yikes. This and a T206 red Cobb SGC 6.5. Not good
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Looking closer I’m not sure the Jackson’s are the same card. Of course we could not be sure unless someone still has it in a PSA 2.
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That I agree with. Circling a couple of dots on the back of 2 cards that look similar does not prove they're the same card.
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I own a print shop and any defect that happens to a sheet of paper like Baseball card goes on all the sheets printed until noticed by the printer. So similar dots, scuffing, hickeys ect can be the exact same on multiples cards. Like the 1990 Frank Thomas NNOF, that was a dent in the black blanket.
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The OP on Blowout suggests that the red turned maroon because of the chemicals. It could be, but I’m thinking that the scans have something to do with it. What struck me was how the scratches between the face and the bat disappeared. Could it have been that they added color to that particular area, or the entire background? Could that explain the change in color? Is it even the same card?
Edit: There is a stain on the 2 that appears to be the same shape and size of a much lighter stain on the 5. Look at where it reads “Orleans,” then under that “late in 1910.” The stain goes on a bit south from there. It’s kind of shaped like Texas. Anyone else see that? Last edited by orly57; 06-22-2019 at 11:44 PM. |
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Definitely the same card.
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Yeah corners are the same. That has nothing to do with the printer lol
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If it's the same card, then why is that upper right corner so much rounder in the SGC 5 example?
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Any chance 2 cards that came out of a box of cracker Jacks 100 years ago could have similar looking stains in the same spot? Maybe one shaped like something covered in caramel was pressed against it.
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I think it is likely the same card too.
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Also back damage on the upper right that's been worked on, you can still traces of it and patterns match up, easily seen to the right of the "Cleve-"
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Yes. It’s posible that two different, identically-shaped Cracker Jack candies stained two different Joe Jackson cards in the exact same spot. It is posible that the cards shared numerous other identifying features, including identical centering (slight tilt), corner-wear, and other markings. It is also possible that both of those cards survived over 100 years, and were sold in auctions a few months apart. Of course the lesser grade card sold first (by a reputable auction house), and the higher grade sold months later (by a company that is currently under the microscope for selling altered cards). So yeah, there is “possible” and there is “highly unlikely.”
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Color is often hard to determine from online scans due to different scanner settings. That wouldn't have necessarily been a red flag.
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