$400+ for 1952T Mantle....

[Bestdj777]

Originally Posted by TheNightmanCometh

Less than $1000? I don't know why anyone would pay more than $100. Just to say you own a '52 Mantle? Nobody would believe you until you showed it and once you did they wouldn't think much of it. I don't see any positives in owning that card. Unless your bag is messed up cards with weird things drawn on them. :-P

Don't judge Some people like that sort of thing....


I personally don't mind messed up cards, or cards with writing on them provided it isn't malicious (i.e., drawing glasses on Mantle is kind of funny while drawing x's through his face would be a deal breaker). I have a handful of cards in my collection that have been annotated by their original owners, etc.

[pokerplyr80]

I've seen some pretty hammered examples sell for over 4k. None as bad as this one. Maybe my estimate is a little high. But in an Ebay auction in an authentic holder I'd be surprised if any in tact 52 Mantle goes for less than 3k in any condition. Again I wouldn't be the buyer but I believe there would be many out there who just want to own one and that would be all they can afford.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I've seen some pretty hammered examples sell for over 4k. None as bad as this one. Maybe my estimate is a little high. But in an Ebay auction in an authentic holder I'd be surprised if any in tact 52 Mantle goes for less than 3k in any condition. Again I wouldn't be the buyer but I believe there would be many out there who just want to own one and that would be all they can afford.

yeah i disagree....there are certian units people are willing to pay. 3000 is high...you wouldnt pay the 3000.....

its like when people on b/s/t say they love a card and the price, but not going to buy it....doesnt really mean anything if they not buying it....whats the most you woudl pay for the spectacle Mantle pokerplyr? i understand there could be others willing to pay more than you but want to see your ballpark..

[pokerplyr80]

I wouldn't buy that card to keep, only to flip. In an authentic holder I would take a shot around 2k. I would be confident I could sell it for at least 3k.

I'm not saying I love the card at 3k just that I think someone else would.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I wouldn't buy that card to keep, only to flip. In an authentic holder I would take a shot around 2k. I would be confident I could sell it for at least 3k.

I'm not saying I love the card at 3k just that I think someone else would.

right so you don't even know if you buy it for 2k but you think it would go for 3k-3500..thats the first sign that your valuation is too high, which I think you were already beginning to admit..

[Bestdj777]

I think the valuation is spot on. I remember shopping before this recent spike and some really nasty cards were bringing 2k plus then. Given the difficulty of getting a low grade example at any reasonable price now I'd imagine you could find a buyer at 3k if you didn't mind holding it a couple months.

[begsu1013]

depending on the day and the mood, i'd throw $3k at it if it were in a sgc/psa holder but doubt i would win it...

it's got 2 things going for it:

it's a legit 52 mantle.
and it's a very unique and laughable 52 mantle.

it'd make me smile!

hell, i'd even prop it up on the desk at work just for the facial reactions...

(again, if it were legit)

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

yeah i disagree....there are certian units people are willing to pay. 3000 is high...you wouldnt pay the 3000.....

its like when people on b/s/t say they love a card and the price, but not going to buy it....doesnt really mean anything if they not buying it....whats the most you woudl pay for the spectacle Mantle pokerplyr? i understand there could be others willing to pay more than you but want to see your ballpark..

You find me one in similar condition, I'll give you 2k. I might even go a little more. I think it would bring at least 3k. If I won a card like that in that range, it would go straight to PWCC. I might even have it shipped directly there.

Bob knows the market better than I do and he said he might even throw 3k at it, and doesn't think he'd win it. I think my initial valuation is pretty close, although I doubt we'll get a chance to test this hypothesis.

[CW]

Sold for $3828 in Sterling back in Feb of '15, almost a year ago...

Original thread

[begsu1013]

posting vcp info first solely in "a" condition for remaining 3 tpgs for the last 2 years:

PSA:

12/30/15 eBay Listing $7,995.95
11/28/15 eBay Listing $12,000.00
11/8/15 eBay Auction $7,777.00 Altered
11/1/15 eBay Listing $16,000.00
10/7/15 eBay Auction $4,464.00
9/24/15 eBay Auction $6,800.00 Altered
9/9/15 eBay Auction $11,877.00
8/9/15 eBay Auction $4,803.00
6/13/15 eBay $5,750.00
6/10/15 eBay $5,750.00
5/25/15 eBay $4,990.00 Altered
5/11/15 eBay $15,690.00 Altered
4/26/15 REA $4,800.00 Recolored
3/29/15 Love of the Game $10,200.00
3/9/15 eBay $5,111.00
10/18/14 eBay $1,590.00
6/5/14 eBay $3,790.00
5/30/14 Legendary $14,340.00
5/28/14 eBay $2,200.00 Altered
5/22/14 eBay $3,350.00 Altered
4/5/14 eBay $4,000.00
12/31/13 eBay $6,000.00


SGC:

1/18/16 eBay Listing $7,000.00
6/21/15 eBay $7,499.99
4/9/15 Huggins & Scott $4,481.25
11/2/14 eBay $7,000.00
10/19/14 REA $3,900.00
12/6/13 Greg Bussineau $13,320.00


BVG: (NOT MUCH)

11/16/15 eBay Auction $5,355.00 Altered
4/6/14 eBay $3,119.52

[sbfinley]

The higher valuations are correct. $5k is the buy in to be a contender for poor Mantle now, and that's just enough to sit at the table and bid. If this card was authentic and being auctioned by a legitimate seller the minimum estimate I would expect to see would be $2200-$2500 and it would likely hammer closer to a grand more.

As the for the card in question, it is a counterfeit type 1.

[begsu1013]

ok, w/ vcp pricing transparent (not that that really means anything) does anyone have any info on the psa 10/14 sale of $1590?

legit sale? I do not remember seeing it if so and usually check at least twice a day on the 52 for what pops up.

if it was an actual sale and not a hijacked quick scam account, I would love to see the condition of that card...


other than that other $2200 sale on 5/14, everything else is well above the $3k mark. and most of the "sorta" documented sales are prior to the explosion that has occurred this past 8 months or so.

and while I am not knocking vcp in any means and these are pretty much code/computer initiated recordings, these fake sales do slip past the goalie. here is the info that still registers on a signed 51 bowman that is completely fraudulent...I know because I hit the BIN as soon as I saw it. hijacked account, fake ups slip sent to some random address in my hometown...reported to vcp, they did nothing to remove it from their database:

1/8/16 Goodwin Auction $23,677.20
12/16/15 eBay Listing $5,990.00 (FRAUD SALE)

eta: and on the flip side, there's another completely legitimate one that did sell on 8/4/15 that is not listed on vcp.

i remember that day very whale! ; )

[jmb]

Originally Posted by CW

Sold for $3828 in Sterling back in Feb of '15, almost a year ago...

Original thread

How is it that the beat to hell cards are always centered perfectly ?

[MattyC]

I have noticed the exact same thing! It seems whenever I am seeking a card, I encounter a beat one that has ultra rare centering. Hysterical.

[TheNightmanCometh]

Originally Posted by Bestdj777

Don't judge Some people like that sort of thing....


I personally don't mind messed up cards, or cards with writing on them provided it isn't malicious (i.e., drawing glasses on Mantle is kind of funny while drawing x's through his face would be a deal breaker). I have a handful of cards in my collection that have been annotated by their original owners, etc.

That's fair. I wasn't trying to disrespect anyone :-). I can see how someone could be into messed up cards like that, I just don't see how it can be worth as much as some are saying it could be, even if it is a '52 Mantle.