Is this '66 Maris Venezuelan? & 1966 Topps Maris High Grade Pick-Up

[mintacular]

Picked it up in a dealer box, never owned one a Vennie that is, and have no idea. To me it looks exactly like a Topps version. I guess the stock is supposed to be different? Feels the same to me, maybe thinner but that said the card is so beat I can't say that for sure. If so, value?

While I'm at it, I thought I would show off the same card in Topps that is just SLIGHTLY higher grade, thinking of getting it graded, your thoughts on grade?

[ALR-bishop]

Patrick---I do not collect Venezuelans per se but have collected one example from each year to go with my corresponding Topps sets. The 66s were one of the hardest for me to find. They look much alike and no Spanish wording. The cardboard does seem darker and they seem to lack gloss on the front. The biggest difference for me was the different shade of color on the backs, The Hart card below is my Venezuelan for that set. I know we have betteR experts here who can likely be more specific

[MCoxon]

here's my 66; looks a little browner/darker than yours but I am not a Venezuelan expert.

Also, your Topps Maris looks great. I'd say 7-8, absent a wrinkle

[quitcrab]

I would say no for it being a Venz.
I think the nice Maris would grade a 7.
Just my two cents

[pclpads]

what he said.

[mintacular]

Here's the back of the "vennie" maris in question

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by mintacular

Picked it up in a dealer box, never owned one a Vennie that is, and have no idea. To me it looks exactly like a Topps version. I guess the stock is supposed to be different? Feels the same to me, maybe thinner but that said the card is so beat I can't say that for sure. If so, value?

While I'm at it, I thought I would show off the same card in Topps that is just SLIGHTLY higher grade, thinking of getting it graded, your thoughts on grade?

The easiest way to tell is the '66 Venezuelans have no gloss at all on the front.