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Old 09-29-2019, 06:33 AM
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Default BBCE 1952 Topps Wax Pack "Brick"

Looks odd but also kind of amazing

https://www.bbcexchange.com/1952-Top...ck-8-Wax-Packs

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1952 Topps Baseball Unopened Brick (8) Wax Packs. A few decades ago there was a find of 1952 Topps Baseball wax packs on the West Coast. There were a few "bricks" of wax packs that were wrapped in groups of 8. This lot consists of (8) 1952 Topps baseball wax packs (most likely 1st series) that are wrapped together in cellophane. The packs themselves appear to be fresh and NM-MT or better! Please e-mail for further details.
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Old 09-29-2019, 09:22 AM
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It was on display at the National for $575,000. Price is plunging

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Old 09-29-2019, 10:48 AM
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It was on display at the National for $575,000. Price is plunging
Ouch!
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Old 09-29-2019, 11:09 AM
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Looks like this is it:



I did some further research and I found this:



So the high numbers only came in the above blue/red wrappers?
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Old 09-29-2019, 12:03 PM
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So if you were a gambler the only path to making your money back would be to a pull a Pafko from every pack and a few PSA 10's. I often look at the equity of opening packs and boxes, and even as prices get crazy, if you break it down often it's around break-even. This one not so much.
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Old 09-29-2019, 12:55 PM
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This one is a luxury item not intended to be broken up; would you break up a diamond tennis bracelet into smaller pieces? Definitely no money in breaking it due to the heavy likelihood of way off-centered cards.
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Old 09-30-2019, 08:25 AM
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If the high numbers only came in the red, white, and blue wrappers have any unopened packs surfaced? This is the first time I ever saw that wrapper. If a wrapper still exists there is a chance a pack still exists.
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Ridiculous. Your control group is skewed.

People don't list poor condition $1 commons as singles on ebay, but a poor high number gets $40. The juice has to be worth the squeeze.

You wasted hours of your life on this trying to prove what? People are just over paying for high numbers? Go walk around a show like I do and ask every dealer. They don't come around, and they sell quickly

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Ridiculous. Your control group is skewed.

People don't list poor condition $1 commons as singles on ebay, but a poor high number gets $40. The juice has to be worth the squeeze.

You wasted hours of your life on this trying to prove what? People are just over paying for high numbers? Go walk around a show like I do and ask every dealer. They don't come around, and they sell quickly

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Old 10-05-2019, 03:43 PM
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Not a waste at all Ted, I got to remind myself what a *ucking nitwit you are.

I'm sure when your parents watched you in marching band, they swore up and down you were the only one who was "in step".

Any other experiments or pipedreams Dr Stranglove that I can simply poke a hole in?

I just wish you'd waited until I sold off all my high numbers before the radical change in thought amongst buyers.


Walk into a show, let me know how many you find. Ask dealers how long they last when they are in the case. It must just be a frenzy based on 65 years of rumors.
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Old 10-05-2019, 04:37 PM
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As a collector or 52Ts I find myself in Ted's camp. The 52 semi-high commons can frequently be found in lots along with lower numbered cards without any special mention on ebay. Any lots with highs included are sure to advertise as such. Vendors at card shows have trouble finding or keeping any high series cards. Semi-highs are easily found at shows. I think the price differential between the high and semi-high series is an accurate reflection of the relative populations. Just my observation/experience...
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As a collector or 52Ts I find myself in Ted's camp. The 52 semi-high commons can frequently be found in lots along with lower numbered cards without any special mention on ebay. Any lots with highs included are sure to advertise as such. Vendors at card shows have trouble finding or keeping any high series cards. Semi-highs are easily found at shows. I think the price differential between the high and semi-high series is an accurate reflection of the relative populations. Just my observation/experience...
I think the spread is accurate to a point, there is some type of "legendary" status kicker working with the highs as well. I did the canvass as I have never really seen a comparison of the semi and high series anywhere, so it was instructive and I figured I could get a blog post out of it as well. I thought there would be less highs than I found. 60 of #368 surprised me for sure.
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I'm sure when your parents watched you in marching band, they swore up and down you were the only one who was "in step".

Any other experiments or pipedreams Dr Stranglove that I can simply poke a hole in?

I just wish you'd waited until I sold off all my high numbers before the radical change in thought amongst buyers.


Walk into a show, let me know how many you find. Ask dealers how long they last when they are in the case. It must just be a frenzy based on 65 years of rumors.
Have a nice day Ted.

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Old 10-04-2019, 08:17 PM
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Ridiculous. Your control group is skewed.

People don't list poor condition $1 commons as singles on ebay, but a poor high number gets $40. The juice has to be worth the squeeze.

You wasted hours of your life on this trying to prove what? People are just over paying for high numbers? Go walk around a show like I do and ask every dealer. They don't come around, and they sell quickly

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Is putting together a low grade 52 set I disagree. Lots of people list lots of low condition commons as singles. Also, poor condition highs go for much more then 40
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Old 10-05-2019, 02:19 PM
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The sad part about this hobby is that almost everybody believes the bullsh*t that gets fed to them. There are very few of us who challenge commonly held beliefs. Toppcat's post shows that there is nothing special about the high numbers and I thought this all along. There are plenty of em' out there for everyone!

Let's look at the 1951 Bowmans - same sh*t. When I started taking interest in this set, I would research online and read things like "high numbers are scarce! Very tough high numbers! High numbers are more difficult to find!" Well, let's do a quick eBay search from Canada, shall we?

#1 Whitey Ford (57)
#2 Yogi Berra (29)
#3 Robin Roberts (30)

#305 Willie Mays (39)
#306 Jim Piersall (26)
#307 Walt Masterson (50)

Hmmmm ...

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