FYI....T206 AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 fr..350 nofr..460 confirmed lists

[tedzan]

DATED Oct 6, 2020




The first of these three AMERICAN BEAUTY backs (AB 350 frame) was printed and issued in the Summer of 1910.



AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 (frame)......190 confirmed cards....COMPLETE

Abbott
Abstein
Adkins
Anderson
Arellanes
Armbruster
Arndt
Atz
Barbeau
Barry (A's)
Barry (Milw)
Batch
Beck
Becker
Beckley
Bender (trees)
Bescher (portrait)
Blackburne
Bliss
Brain

Brashear
Bresnahan (bat)
Burchell
Burke
Burns
Bush
Butler
Campbell
Carr
Carrigan
Casey
Cassidy
Chance (portrait-yellow)
Chappelle
Charles
Chase (portrait-blue)
Chase (dark cap)
Clancy
Clark
Clymer

Cobb (portrait-red)
Collins (A's)
Congalton
Cravath
Cree
Davidson
Delehanty (Louisville)
Dessau
Dineen
Donovan (throwing)
Doolan (fielding)
Dorner
Downey (fielding)
Downs
Dubuc
Dunn (Baltimore)
Dunn (Brooklyn)
Dygert
Easterly
Egan

Engle
Evers (bat-yellow sky)
Ferguson
Fiene (portrait)
Fiene (throwing)
Flanagan
Fletcher
Freeman
Fromme
Ganzel
Gasper
Graham (Boston)
Graham (St Louis)
Grimshaw
Hall
Hallman
Hannifan
Hartsel
Hayden
Hinchman (Toledo)

Hoblitzell
Hoffman (Providence)
Hoffman (St Louis)
Hofman
Howard (Chicago)
Howell (portrait)
Huggins (portrait)
Huggins (hands/mouth)
Hulswitt
Hunter
Jackson
Jones (Detroit)
Kelley
Killian (portrait)
Kisinger
Knabe
Knight (portrait)
Knight (bat)
Krause (portrait)
Krause (pitching)

Kroh
Kruger
Laporte
Lattimore
Lavender
Lennox
Livingstone
Lord
Maddox
Malarkey
Maloney
Marquard (portrait)
Marshall
Mathewson (dark cap)
McAleese
McBride
McCormick
Mc Elveen
McGann
McGinley

McGinnity
McGlynn
McIntyre (Detroit)
Merritt
Milan
Miller (Pittsburg)
Milligan
Mitchell (Cinci)
Mitchell (Toronto)
Moeller
Moran (Chicago)
Moran (Providence)
Moriarty
Mullin (portrait)
Murray (bat)
Myers (bat)
Myers (fielding)
Nattress
Oakes
Oberlin

O'Brien
O'Neill
Paskert
Perring
Pfeister (seated)
Phelan
Phelps
Phillippe
Pickering
Poland
Purtell
Quillen
Quinn
Randall
Raymond
Rhoades (hands/chest)
Rhodes
Ritter
Rudolph
Schirm

Schlafly
Schmidt (portrait)
Schreck
Scott
Sharpe
Shaw (Providence)
Slagle
Smith (Buffalo)
Snodgrass (bat)
Speaker
Stanage
Starr
Stephens
Strang
Street (portrait)
Summers
Sweeney (Boston)
J. Tannehill (Washington)
Taylor
Thielmann

Thomas
Titus
Unglaub
Warhop
White (Buffalo)
Willett
Wilson
Wright
Irv Young
Zimmerman




AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 (no frame).....37 confirmed cards. Printed and issued in the Fall of 1910....COMPLETE

Baker
Bender (no trees)
Burch (fielding)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Downey (bat)
Larry Doyle (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Griffith (bat)
Jennings (two hands)
Johnson (pitching)
Jordan (bat)
Konetchy (glove low)
Lake (no ball)
Leifield (bat)
Magee (bat)
Manning (pitching)
McQuillan (bat)
Mullin (bat)

Murphy (bat)
Nichols (bat)
Overall (yellow sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
Reulbach (no glove)
Rucker (bat)
Seymour (throwing)
Stahl (glove)
Steinfeldt (bat)
Street (catching)
Sweeney (fielding)
Wagner (bat on right)
Wilhelm (bat)
Willets
Willis (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)




AMERICAN BEAUTY 460.......74 (total) confirmed cards. Printed and issued in early 1911....COMPLETE

350/460 Series..................28 cards COMPLETE


Berger
Bradley (bat)
Burch (fielding)
Cobb (bat off)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (two hands)
Jordan (bat)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Manning (pitching)
McQuillan (bat)
Mullin (bat)
Overall (yellow sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
Smith (Chicago & Boston)

Steinfeldt (bat)
Tinker (bat off)
Wagner (bat on right)
Doc White (pitching)
Wilhelm (bat)
Willetts
Willis (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)


460-only Series..................46 cards COMPLETE

Abbaticcio (blue sleeves)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bell (pitching)
Bescher (arms above)
Bergen (catching)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
Camnitz (arms above head)
Camnitz (arm at side)
Chance (bat)
Chase (trophy)
Crandall (portrait-cap)
Devore
Doyle (portrait)
Duffy
Ford
Gandil
Geyer
Herzog (Boston)
Howell (hands at waist)
Hummell

Lake (with ball)
Latham
Marquard (follow thru)
McGraw (portrait-cap)
McGraw (glove at hip)
Merkle (throwing)
Meyers (portrait)
Murray (portrait)
Needham
Oldring (bat)
Overall (blue sky)
Payne
Pfeffer
Schaefer (Washington)
Schulte (back view)
Schlei (portrait)
Schlei (bat)
Seymour (portrait)
Sheckard (glove)
F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)

H. Smith (Brooklyn)
Stovall (bat)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (bat on)
Wheat
Wiltse (portrait-cap)


TED Z

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[tedzan]

Double post.

[White Borders]

Hi Ted,

Thanks so much for posting this list. However, when I count the cards you have listed as 350 Frame, I come up with only 190. Also, Mc Elveen is listed twice, so that makes the list 189, which is 3 short of 192 confirmed cards.

Best Regards,
Craig

[tedzan]

Thanks for checking that out.....my typo errors.

The AB 350 (frame) list has been corrected to reflect 192 cards.

And, although I've included Mowery, I am not confident that this card
was printed with the AB 350 (frame) back.


TED Z

[White Borders]

Based on Ted Z's list of American Beauty confirmed cards, I've put together a list of cards that appear to be AB No-Prints. If you can confirm any of them as having an American Beauty back, please let us know.

Thanks and Best Regards,
Craig


AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 (Frame)...21 No-Prints

Cy Barger...Portrait...Rochester
George Brown...Batting...Washington
Bobby Byrne...Batting...StL Cardinals
Jimmy Collins...Portrait...Minneapolis
Monte Cross...Ready to Throw...Indianapolis

Bill Dahlen...Portrait...Brooklyn
Ray Demmitt...Standing...NY Highlanders
Joe Doyle...NY...NY Highlanders
Kid Elberfeld...Portrait...Washington
Dolly Gray...Follow Thru...Washington

Bob Groom...Follow Thru...Washington
Red Kleinow...Catching...NY Highlanders
Carl Lundgren...Ready to Throw...Kansas City
Al Mattern...Portrait...Boston Doves
Larry McLean...Catching...Cincinnati

Bill O'Hara...Batting...NY Giants
Ambrose Puttman...Follow Thru...Louisville
Bob Rhoades...Right Arm...Cleveland
Claude Rossman...Portrait...Detroit
Spike Shannon...Fielding...Kansas City
Frank Smith...White Cap...Chi White Sox


AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 (No Frame)...20 No-Prints

Red Ames...Hands above Head...NY Giants
Heinie Berger...Ready to Throw...Cleveland
Bill Bradley...Batting...Cleveland
Mordecai Brown...Chicago on Shirt...Chi Cubs
Ty Cobb...Bat off Shoulder...Detroit

Harry Davis...Davis on Front...Phil A's
Mike Donlin...Batting...NY Giants
Patsy Dougherty...Fielding (Arm Up)...Chi White Sox
Hughie Jennings...One Hand Showing...Detroit
Addie Joss...Pitching...Cleveland

Nap Lajoie...Batting...Cleveland
Tommy Leach...Fielding...Pittsburgh
Harry McIntyre...Follow Thru...Brooklyn & Chi
Charles O'Leary...Fielding...Detroit
Fred Snodgrass...Catching...NY Giants

Joe Tinker...Bat off Shoulder...Chi Cubs
Doc White...Throwing...Chi White Sox
Kaiser Wilhelm...Batting...Brooklyn
Vic Willis...Throwing...StL Cardinals
Cy Young...Glove...Cleveland


AMERICAN BEAUTY 460...30 No-Prints

Home Run Baker...Follow Thru...Phil A's
Chief Bender...No Trees...Phil A's
Mordecai Brown...Chicago on Shirt...Chi Cubs
Harry Davis...Davis on Front...Phil A's
Mike Donlin...Batting...NY Giants

Mickey Doolan...Batting...Phil Phillies
Patsy Dougherty...Fielding (Arm Up)...Chi White Sox
Tom Downey...Batting...Cincinnati
Larry Doyle...Batting...NY Giants
Kid Elberfeld...Fielding...Washington

John Frill...Follow Thru...NY Highlanders
Clark Griffith...Batting...Cincinnati
Walter Johnson...Pitching...Washington
Addie Joss...Pitching...Cleveland
Red Kleinow...Catching...Boston Red Sox

Ed Konetchy...Glove Low...StL Cardinals
Sherry Magee...Batting...Phil Phillies
Harry McIntyre...Follow Thru...Brooklyn & Chi
Danny Murphy...Batting...Phil A's
Simon Nichols...Batting...Phil A's

Charles O'Leary...Fielding...Detroit
Ed Reulbach...No Glove...Chi Cubs
Nap Rucker...Pitching...Brooklyn
Cy Seymour...Pitching...NY Giants
Fred Snodgrass...Catching...NY Giants

Jake Stahl...Glove Showing...Boston Red Sox
Gabby Street...Catching...Washington
Jeff Sweeney...Fielding...NY Highlanders
Vic Willis...Throwing...StL Cardinals
Cy Young...Glove...Cleveland

[tedzan]

29 of the 30 cards you are looking for with AB 460 backs will NOT be found. All 29 of these cards
are 350/460 series subjects, which have been confirmed with the Red HINDU backs. The AB 460
subjects and the Red HINDU subjects are mutually exclusive in the 350/460 series.

John Frill is a 460-only card. He was transferred to Jersey City in the Eastern League in July 1910,
well before the AB 460 were printed in the Spring of 1911. So, I don't think we will find him with
an AB 460 back.


Best regards,

TED Z

[tedzan]

AMERICAN BEAUTY 460..........................74 confirmed cards

350/460 Series..................28 cards

Berger
Bradley (bat)
Burch (fielding)
Cobb (bat off)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (two hands)
Jordan (bat)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Manning (pitching)
McQuillan (bat)
Mullin (bat)
Overall (yellow sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)

Steinfeldt (bat)
Tinker (bat off)
Wagner (bat on right)
Doc White (pitching)
Wilhelm (bat)
Willetts
Willis (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)


460-only Series..................46 cards

Abbaticcio (blue sleeves)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bell (pitching)
Bergen (catching)
Bescher (arms above)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
Camnitz (arms at side)
Camnitz (arms up)
Chance (bat)
Chase (trophy)
Crandall (portrait-cap)
Devore
Doyle (portrait)
Duffy
Ford
Frill
Gandil
Geyer
Herzog (Boston)
Howell (hands at waist)

Hummell
Lake (with ball)
Latham
Marquard (follow thru)
McGraw (portrait-cap)
McGraw (glove at hip)
Merkle (throwing)
Meyers (portrait)
Murray (portrait)
Needham
Oldring (bat)
Overall (blue sky)
Payne
Pfeffer
Schaefer (Washington)
Schulte (back view)
Schlei (portrait)
Schlei (bat)
Seymour (portrait)
Sheckard (glove)

H. Smith (Brooklyn)
Stovall (bat)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (bat on)
Wheat
Wiltse (portrait-cap)

The Ames (hands above head) card has been removed from this list. Refer to thread......http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=203849
for the explanation.



TED Z
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[tedzan]

The printing of the very scarce AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 cards appears to breakdown into 3 levels of scarcity.


1st......and easiest to find, the "Exclusive 12" are certainly more available than any of the other 62 subjects
with AB 460 backs. I believe these 12 subjects were printed on a sheet separate from the other AB 460's.




Crandall (cap)
Devore
Duffy
Ford
Gandil
Geyer
Hummel
McGraw (glove at hip)
Pfeffer
Sheckard (glove)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Wheat


2nd......and considerably tougher than the Exclusive 12 are the following 38 subjects......

Bell (pitching)
Berger
Bescher (arms above)
Bradley (bat)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
Burch (fielding)
Camnitz (arms at side)
Chance (bat)
Chase (trophy)
Cobb (bat off)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
Herzog (Boston)
Howell (hands at waist)
Jennings (two hands)
Jordan (bat)
Lake (with ball)
Lake (no ball)
Latham
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Manning (pitching)
Marquard (follow thru)
Merkle (throwing)
Mullin (bat)
Needham
Overall (blue sky)
Pfeister (throwing)
Schaefer (Washington)
Schulte (back view)
Schlei (portrait)
Schlei (bat)
Seymour (portrait)
F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)
Tinker (bat on)
Wagner (bat on right)
Doc White (pitching)
Willetts



3rd......and the most difficult of all of these 74 - AB 460 cards are these 24 subjects......

Abbaticcio (blue sleeves)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bergen (catching)
Camnitz (hands over head)
Doyle (portrait)
Frill
Jennings (one hand)
Lajoie (bat)
McGraw (portrait-cap)
McQuillan (bat)
Meyers (portrait)
Murray (portrait)
Oldring (bat)
Overall (yellow sky)
Payne
Pelty (vertical)
H. Smith (Brooklyn)
Steinfeldt (bat)
Stovall (bat)
Tinker (bat off)
Wilhelm (bat)
Willis (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)
Wiltse (portrait-cap)


I've listed these 3 levels of scarcity of the AB 460 cards based on my experience collecting this T206 sub-set
during the past 8 years. Furthermore, this list factors into account other collectors want-lists of AB 460 cards.


Show and/or tell us of your experiences collecting these tough AB 460 backs.



TED Z
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Still searching for these 4 cards to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set (74 subjects)

CAMNITZ (hands over head)....DOYLE (portrait)....McGRAW (portrait-cap)....TINKER (bat off shoulder)
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[trdcrdkid]

Ted -- my two AB 460s include one from your second group (Mullin bat) and one from your third group (Overall yellow sky). As usual, great stuff.

[tedzan]

Nice looking cards......especially the Overall.

The Overall is a very tough AB 460 card.


TED Z
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[tedzan]

The printing of the very scarce AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 cards appears to breakdown into 3 levels of scarcity.


1st.....and, easiest to find, the "Exclusive 12" are certainly more available than any of the other 62 subjects
with AB 460 backs. I believe these 12 subjects were printed on a sheet separate from the other AB 460's.




Crandall (cap)
Devore
Duffy
Ford
Gandil
Geyer
Hummel
McGraw (glove at hip)
Pfeffer
Sheckard (glove)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Wheat


2nd.....and, considerably tougher than the Exclusive 12 are the following 30 subjects......


Berger
Bradley (bat)
Burch (fielding)
Camnitz (arms at side)
Chance (bat)
Chase (trophy)
Cobb (bat off)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
Jennings (two hands)
Lake (no ball)
Latham
Leifield (bat)
Manning (pitching)
Meyers (portrait)
Mullin (bat)
Needham
Overall (blue sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
Schlei (portrait)
Schlei (bat)
Schulte (back view)
Seymour (portrait)
Frank Smith (Chicago & Boston)
Happy Smith (Brooklyn)
Stovall (bat)
Willetts
Willis (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)



3rd.....and, the most difficult of all of these AB 460 cards are these 32 subjects......

Abbaticcio (blue sleeves)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bell (pitching)
Bergen (catching)
Bescher (arms above)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
Camnitz (hands over head)
Doyle (portrait)
Frill
Herzog (Boston)
Howell (hands at waist)
Jennings (one hand)
Jordan (bat)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake (with ball)
Leach (cap)
Marquard (follow thru)
McGraw (portrait-cap)
McQuillan (bat)
Merkle (throwing)
Murray (portrait)
Oldring (bat)
Overall (yellow sky)
Payne
Schaefer (Washington)
Steinfeldt (bat)
Tinker (bat off)
Tinker (bat on)
Wagner (bat on right)
Doc White (pitching)
Wilhelm (bat)
Wiltse (portrait-cap)


I have listed these 3 levels of scarcity of the AB 460 cards based on my experience collecting this T206 sub-set
during the past 8 years. Furthermore, this list factors into account other collectors want-lists of AB 460 cards.


Determining these 3 levels of scarcity is still a work in progress. So, tell us of your experiences collecting these
tough AB 460 backs....and, show your cards..



TED Z
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Still searching for these 4 cards to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set (74 subjects)

CAMNITZ (hands over head)....DOYLE (portrait)....McGRAW (portrait-cap)....TINKER (bat off shoulder)
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[mrvster]

I totally agree on these "levels".........


I have most of the "12"....but only 2 or 3 or the tougher ones

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by mrvster

I totally agree on these "levels".........


I have most of the "12"....but only 2 or 3 or the tougher ones

Your experience collecting these AB 460 cards is typical.

The majority of the AB 460 cards are considerably tougher than what they are ranked in the "T206resource" site.
However, the considerably more available Exclusive 12 subjects with AB 460 backs significantly skew the AB 460
ranking lower than it actually should be.

Research indicates that 60 of these subjects with the AB 460 back should rank as high as the red HINDU cards.


TED Z
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