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Old 08-20-2008, 07:11 PM
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Posted By: Richard Dwyer

Can you put the Standard Catalog of BB cards CD pdf on your iPhone?

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Old 08-20-2008, 07:15 PM
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Posted By: Eric

I don't know if its legal but I would love to have it on my iphone...

please send instructions on doing so!

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Old 08-20-2008, 07:20 PM
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Posted By: Richard Dwyer

First off, it's a password protected PDF. Dunno if that makes any difference or not. I used PDFKeypro on Macintosh to unlock it. Then I bought an app called Annotator from iTunes app store, and installed that. You dl their app to upload, then dl it to your iPhone. You can search, bookmark, etc. You don't need the internet to access the file anymore. I can have it everywhere I go.

Please be legal!

Edited to add: I tried my palm pilot first using DocsToGo and that's when I found out about it being a password protected pdf.

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Old 08-20-2008, 07:30 PM
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Posted By: Richard Dwyer

Apparently not.

All rights reserved. No portion of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in
any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, including photocopy, recording,
or any information storage and retrieval system, without permission in writing from the
publisher, except by a reviewer who may quote brief passages in a critical article or
review to be printed in a magazine or newspaper, or electronically transmitted on
radio, television, or the Internet.

Edited to add: I emailed Krause to ask for permission to do so.

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Old 08-20-2008, 08:04 PM
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Posted By: scgaynor

How would that be any different than transferring it to an external hard drive for storage?

That is how people often get around it with music and movies, they just consider it "off-site storage."

Scott

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Old 08-20-2008, 08:15 PM
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Posted By: Richard Dwyer

I have pdfs of the following on my iPhone now:

British Cards
Canadian Cards
19th. Century Cards
20th. Century Cards

(Each of these have all the sets, with the year, amount of cards in set, name of set, and price in Dollars for each set)

I also have these pdfs:

T Card Factory and Districts
Pictures of all the T206 Boxes
Standard Catalog Of Baseball Cards Vintage '08.pdf

Now I can buy on the spot when searching antique shops, card dealers, etc.

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Old 08-20-2008, 08:35 PM
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Posted By: leon

As someone who sells s/w licensing I can safely say that each company has it's own policies. Microsoft has different ways of doing theirs but generally if you are entitled to use their s/w you can do so wherever you are, regardless of computers/ipods etc....and only have 1 license....at least this is the way it is on larger contracts....

I would hope that Krause (SCD?) would have the same policy but I am not sure.....As long as you are the only one using it I would hope it would be ok.....and of course it's always best to email them and ask.

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Old 08-21-2008, 04:19 AM
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Posted By: Tim

It sounds like you're OK.

From the US copyright office site (http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#117)

§ 117. Limitations on exclusive rights: Computer programs53
(a) Making of Additional Copy or Adaptation by Owner of Copy. — Notwithstanding the provisions of section 106, it is not an infringement for the owner of a copy of a computer program to make or authorize the making of another copy or adaptation of that computer program provided:

(1) that such a new copy or adaptation is created as an essential step in the utilization of the computer program in conjunction with a machine and that it is used in no other manner, or

(2) that such new copy or adaptation is for archival purposes only and that all archival copies are destroyed in the event that continued possession of the computer program should cease to be rightful.

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Old 08-21-2008, 06:18 AM
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Posted By: Tom Boblitt

I can't imagine that they'd have a problem with that........it is for PERSONAL use, not for 'transmitting' to another party in an effort to reduce their revenue, etc for the product. Most, if not all, software can be duplicated for backup purposes, so........Can't imagine they'll be tracking you down and zapping your Iphone..........

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Posted By: Marty Ogelvie

Legal or not, it is pretty cool..   I don't carry mine around with me on my iPod or iPhone or any of those gadgets. I don't have pockets for that stuff but I did download the PDF to my PC and open it up often to quickly search for cards.  It is quickly becoming my favorite resource where as before the book was just too darn cumbersome to mess with very often.

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Posted By: Richard Dwyer

Getting a few emails asking the same thing. So I'll post the info here for those interested in installing Standard Catalog Of Baseball Cards Vintage '08 on their iPhone.

Annotator is an iTune Store apps that costs $5. Then you dl Annotator Service from: http://jbrink.net/annotater/
(use this to ul pdfs)

PDFKey Pro 3.7.3 is a shareware program that unlocks pdfs. You can try it for free here: http://www.pdfkey.com/
(Shareware)

Let me know if you're successful.


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Posted By: Chris Nerat

Guys,
It is totally fine if you put the catalog on your phones. I think it's really cool you guys are into the hobby that much! I just talked to our publisher and he's is fine with this.

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Posted By: davidcycleback

For the publisher, the key to security is to have the password be the purchaser's name and social security number. The purchaser won't be giving away or selling copies.

I once dealt with large pdf documents, but back then everyone was using dial up and few could make CD-ROM copies on their home computer, so just having a very large pdf document was prevention enough. Few were willing to receive via email a copy that would take five hours to download, and fewer were willing to email it. The original was distributed on CD-ROM. You could, if you wanted, personalize the password and put the purchaser's name and address on the document itself.

If you want the ultimate is security, as a college student my dad had a part time summer job working in the computer section at some company (3M?), and he had to sign a form attesting that he was not a communist.

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