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Is there anything on back of the card in question or is it a blank back?
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Here is a scan of the back--I have done some cursory research of the caramel / chocolate company and looks like they had been in business since the turn of the century.
Strangely enough, at the age of 14 Meazza had earned a tryout from his favorite team (AC Milan) but was rejected on account of his "slight frame". Hard to believe looking at him just a few years later. Additionally, and just to add a little twist to the project--the uniform he is wearing on the card in question looks similar to the away colours of AC Milan. Not sure how many photographers were around to take pictures of players during a tryout but does it look like he may be around 14? Last edited by esehombre; 01-08-2019 at 06:31 PM. Reason: Added Picture |
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Ironically, the shirt is also exact in style to the away shirt worn by Inter in the late 1930s and early 1940s although this is clearly a much earlier image of Meazza. |
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meazza 1930 card
From what has been discovered, this jersey was a one-off kit used in January 1930 for a Milan-Inter combined squad which played a Berlin team.
So the cards has to be from 1930 or later.
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I have received some excellent information from some Italian and more specifically Inter/Giuseppe Meazza enthusiasts who were able to shed a pretty good degree of light on what has been a perplexing and at times frustrating search for answers. For now, the information that i have obtained is different from the thought that this could be from 1930. And, although this being the only picture we have to go on, I would certainly think that due to body structure and youthful appearance this picture shows a significantly younger Meazza than what he looked like in 1930. Additionally, Meazza played for the Inter Youth Academy from 1924 until his signing with the senior team in September 1927 (from age 14-17). According to more than one source (one the owner of the Giuseppe Meazza website, this was a 2nd division (Academy) Inter uniform (Inter has never been relegated in its history). "HI there, Peppino was in the Inter Youth Academy at 14, so he played there till 1927 approx when he started to play with the senior team. So, for sure that's a Inter kit.*" "Definitely a second uniform, in those years Inter often dropped in the field in complete white with horizontal stripes nerazzurri.. Within Inter in 1924 the photo could trace from that year until 1927 when he entered the senior team, sure I can be wrong, I say 1924-1927." Also, I found another collector friend from Italy who shared with me another card with the same image (mine just has the other player cropped out). Really neat as that is first time i have seen this card. Is there any chance this is the Berlin team? I have also added another card from my collection and a picture. The picture on the far right is Meazza from the 1930-31 season with his AS Ambrosiana kit. The card on the bottom is a 1927 Lurati card from his first season with Inter (In 1928 Inter changed their name to Societa Sportiva Ambrosiana). Since Meazza played his first game for Inter in Sept 1927 the card says Inter and he is still dressed in the Inter kit. Due to the information about Meazza playing in this kit multiple times over the course of the 3 years he was with the Inter Youth Academy Team, the slight body style and youthful appearance in the cards (also the absence of any mention of Ambrosiana) leads me to believe at least the photo is from 1924-1927. While I still believe much more research needs to be done and it is possible this could be from 1930 I am much less convinced now. I would be interested to hear others thoughts. I am also awaiting some photos from the Giuseppe Meazza website which will hopefully shed some more light. I will update if/when i do receive anything else. Thanks so much for your input so far Last edited by esehombre; 01-23-2019 at 07:45 PM. |
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A few things that are of note on this subject. The photo is against Berlin wearing Hertha BSC colors.
I'll see if I can find a team photo.
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EseHombre & Copa7 - Thank you both for the very informative thread. I love learning more about soccer history.
Copa7 - I am a little confused about the picture you showed above. My understanding is this picture you showed is from the 1930 Milano - Berlin exhibition game, which you are saying is the same game from the two mentioned cards in the thread. However, the uniform of the picture you showed includes a cross and another symbol on the upper left chest of the uniform, whereas the uniform in the two cards don't have this symbol. So wouldn't that mean that the two cards have an image of a game other than this one (or that Meazza wore two different uniforms for the game, which I doubt)? Maybe it was a different year exhibition if it is indeed showing Berlin in the second card? Or maybe I am misunderstanding? Thanks again both of you for the very interesting thread. |
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Great find--I had not seen that photo in all of my searches. Clear as mud I guess! That certainly adds to the mystery. And it does appear the keeper has the Coat of Arms of Milan (AC Milan) validating the assertion that it was an Inter / AC Milan combined team--of note, while the uniform Meazza is wearing in the photo of the 1930 game with Berlin is similar to the one on the card it is also distinctively different. Notice what appears to be a cross in the top left of the uniform with a snake (symbol of Milan) next to it. Just for good measure it appears the players also have something in in the middle of the stripe that resembles a sideways "T". While on the card itself Meazza is clearly wearing a kit with a solid line and nothing extra added to it.
I have not received any more photos or information from the Giuseppe Meazza website or any other additional data. I am going to share the photo with them in the hopes they may be able to provide some additional context. Again, thanks so much and i will update once i get some additional information / photos. |
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