Super Rare Fact 25 and 30 sheet number

[mrvster]

I have been meaning to post this for a few years now......I will try to take better pics of the factory 30 back

shown here are 2 ames port each factory sheet number at the bottom....same spot......both corresponding to sc fact 25 or 30 with their respective backs...

thanks Adam G (gradedcardman) for getting me back the ames fact 30 a few years ago to match with the SUPER RARE FACT 25!

I picked up the super rare factory 25 from John Pedeson at the valley forge show a few years back,( it was raw and still is, ) I showed him the back as I bought it....he wasn't impressed(lol) but I live for this stuff!! I told him factory 25 sheet numbers are pretty much non existent , but to find one on an ames, where I already at one time owned the 30 was really neat!

when Adam saw I picked up the 25, he sent me the 30 right back.....one of the best collectors here(amonst others)


anyway.......Ames sheet # 30 and SUPER RARE #25






anyway

[mrvster]

25

[Luke]

That 25 is awesome! I always look for them and have never found one. Here's my Stovall 30 that Bryan sold me which is currently the only one known:

[Frank A]

25 backs are pretty scarce. Ty Cobb Red graded by PSA. 10, 25 backs, compared to 17 Cobb backs.

[Rhotchkiss]

The 2nd hardest back for my tinker back run was a 350, 25 (Mac, thanks again for hooking me up). Since I got mine about 1.5 years ago, I have only seen one other (although I haven’t been too actively looking), and of course it’s on eBay right now....

I still need the darn AB 460. It’s amazing how some backs are just so damn hard in certain player-fronts.

As an aside, I bought the Tinker Uzit first and Adam G sold me his Pied fact 42, which is nothing short of impossible, so I bet I was lucky and there are harder Tinker bat off combos than SC 350, 25. But the fact 25 can be a real pain in the ass sometimes!

[mrvster]

sc factory #25 in either 350 or the 460 are extremely tough.....it took years to even confirm the 350 25's.... I don't know why, every #25 from sweet cap are very tough......they are hidden tuffies not many know about....


The sheet numbers (30's) are hard enough.....only a few dozen examples I have seen.....

I started collecting the sheet #30's in 2001 ....I bought a few from scott forrest, found a few on ebay.....took a few years, I wound up with about 6 different.....I always heard that there were factory 25's out there, but I had never seen one in person....obviously, sheet numbers were assigned to which factory was to print the back..but oddly enough, no other backs have sheet numbers?????...after 15 years of collecting these, I decided to sell or trade them a few years ago including my ames factory 30.........I even had a Rhodes with the sheet # 30 on the side, but not sure yet if that was an actual sheet number??????


anyway, I was attending the Valley forge show a few years back I think 2015......I saw John P at his table.......I was looking at his cards, when I flipped over Ames for shits and giggles and there it was!!!!!! FACTORY 25!!! I FOUND ONE!!!

I let John P know , but he wasn't too excited like me(it's the little things in life that get me excited), and graciously sold it to me.......

When I told adam what I had, he was so cool, he just sent me my old ames factory #30 to be with his sister cardTHANKS AGAIN ADAM G!!!!!!!!!


I always thought these would be "forged" in the future....maybe some jerk getting a stamp and you know the rest.....SO I AM SO EXCITED THE WAY I got these.....I KNOW they are legit, and amazingly stamped at the same spot, thus solving a small T206 mystery of why and where are these being stamped???arbitrarily??? seems they stamped consistent in the same spot!!


LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT!!!


A LEGIT NEVER UBER RARE FACT #25

I gotta love it.......Jantz loved these too


anyway....thanks again Adam G and John P for putting these together for me


great stuff

[david_l]

I guess I’m a bit confused. In looking at my cards and I have a few SC350s Factory No.25s. That’s something people would be interested in? They’re all raw beaters.

[rhettyeakley]

Pretty neat items, I am not really a T206 collector but having seen these in the past I happened to find the following T59 Flags a few years back and set them aside in the hopes of one day sharing them. This thread prompted me to dig them out...

Pretty uncommon in the T59's as well, which were distributed about the same time as the T206 cards (and presumably printed in the same manner and likely by the same outfit).

Anyways, one these 4th series T59's (Series of 200) you cans ee the top of the "240" at base for the Factory 240 cards in the same way you can see the "25" and "30" on the T206's. I thought it interesting that it really does cement that that is what those numbers are referring to without any doubt...

[rhettyeakley]

Funny, until I just posted these large scans I had never noticed the slight wet ink transfer at the base on front that shows the faint number there too. Interesting.

[Luke]

Thanks for posting those! Really cool.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

Pretty neat items, I am not really a T206 collector but having seen these in the past I happened to find the following T59 Flags a few years back and set them aside in the hopes of one day sharing them. This thread prompted me to dig them out...

Pretty uncommon in the T59's as well, which were distributed about the same time as the T206 cards (and presumably printed in the same manner and likely by the same outfit).

Anyways, one these 4th series T59's (Series of 200) you cans ee the top of the "240" at base for the Factory 240 cards in the same way you can see the "25" and "30" on the T206's. I thought it interesting that it really does cement that that is what those numbers are referring to without any doubt...

Very Interesting thanks for posting them Rhett.

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[chalupacollects]

Its a factory 25 with name at top and bottom...

[mrvster]

WOW!

now that is cool!

chalupa....

a tougher combo and 2 name slight premium...


David L

yes.....350 sc fact 25 are rarer and should command a premium, but they get no love like a piedy 42

[david_l]

Cool. Thanks for the info. I was kind or surprised with how many I found in my collection.

[sreader3]

Very cool Johnny and Rhett — thanks for sharing.

Are the large factory numbers confirmed on any T206 sheets besides Sweet Caporal 350 Factory 25 and Factory 30 sheets?

Sorry if this topic has been discussed — I don’t recall.

Also, it might be useful to give these large factory numbers a name to distinguish them from the small factory numbers that appear on all T206 cards.

Scot

[mrvster]

thanks so much!!!

they are just found on the 350 subjects only.........Fact #25 and #30

[chalupacollects]

Originally Posted by mrvster

WOW!

now that is cool!

chalupa....

a tougher combo and 2 name slight premium...


David L

yes.....350 sc fact 25 are rarer and should command a premium, but they get no love like a piedy 42

Thanks mrvster!

[Marslife]

Hey Fellas!

just posted this on the NS side as well. this one is the T58 Fish series:

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TTYL!

Cliff

[mrvster]

anytime

cliff

that is awesome! omg

[Leon]

Thanks for showing those, Cliff. And thanks to the others in this thread (and Johnny for being so enthusiastic.)

Originally Posted by Marslife

Hey Fellas!

just posted this on the NS side as well. this one is the T58 Fish series:

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TTYL!

Cliff

[mrvster]

you are the man !

[Marslife]

Along those same lines (or marks). This looks like an end card on a printing sheet with some marks that may be a printers mark on the sheet?

Enjoy!

Cliff

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[CobbSpikedMe]

Originally Posted by sreader3

Also, it might be useful to give these large factory numbers a name to distinguish them from the small factory numbers that appear on all T206 cards.

Scot

I think Scot may have a point here as some members may be mistaking the large, obscured factory numbers being discussed with the factory and district numbers that are on every T206 back. These large factory numbers that are at the very bottom of these cards are very rare.

[mrvster]

cool