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Old 02-19-2006, 07:47 PM
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Posted By: Paul

I know it's off topic, but it's kind of on topic since he is close to passing Ruth in homeruns. Barry Bonds has announced he will retire at the end of the year, whether he passes Aaron or not. For the ghoulish among us who want to handicap how many homers his body can crank out, Bonds reports that he cannot run because he has no cartilage in his knee -- just bone scraping against bone. But he says he can still swing a bat.

I don't know Bonds so I don't know whether he is the kind of person who might later change his mind, or the kind of person who might make up the retirements story entirely just for fun. But he is in the final year of a five year contract.

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Old 02-19-2006, 07:50 PM
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I didn't read Bonds' statements as an unequivocal statement that he was going to retire, so I don't know how seriously to take it.
Being a huge Giants fan and season ticketholder, I can say that Bonds rarely changes his mind, once he does make a "sure thing" statement. Lots of times, what he says doesn't make sense, but he generally sticks to his decisions.
That's too bad, but if he can't play, he can't play.
There won't be another homerun hitter like him in a very long time. If he can'r break the record, I couldn't hazard to guess who could.

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Old 02-19-2006, 08:32 PM
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A-Rod will pass Aaron on the all time homerun list anyways. providing he stays healthy untill he retires.

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The operative phrase being if he stays healthy...He'll have to continue on his average of 44 HR/yr for about 8 more years, bringing his total years to 20. I'm not saying it's not able to be accomplished, but there are a lot of "if's."

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Once upon a time Ken Griffey looked like a shoe-in for 700 homeruns...

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Old 02-19-2006, 09:39 PM
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When I saw the message topic listed here I was hoping Barry was retiring now, before this season. And that he would come (fully) clean about how he didn't deserve the records he has and disclose the truth about his steroid abuse. His records are a joke and a sham. The Sultan of Shots.

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Bonds is most feared hitter ever! Give him a little credit. At 41 he still is the best pure hitter today. If he gets 400 ABs he will be MVP (again). He will hit a HR every 7-8 times up, and hit .350 on bad knees with a shift on and facing lefty specialists in one of the toughest ball park for HRs in league. Its funny how much of the east coast (and LA fans) hates him. Give him some credit. He's had an awesome career.

Bonds is just as strong now as he ever was, and he is a few years removed from the so called steroid use. He is now same size, same bat speed, same feared hitter. He works out as well as anyone, and his stats since 2001 prove it. Take 1/2 the players out of the Hall then. Players from the 1950s-70s used greenies (meth). Players from early 1900s used cocaine (and again in 1980s). No night games, no Negro players, every era had its advantages. Babe Ruth was so much better than players of his era just like Bonds IS so much better than players of his era. Thats what makes them the best 2 players ever, period! Hate him if you want, make your excuses..... aint going to change history.


PS A-Rod will have trouble reaching record if he plays in NY much longer.

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I equate athletes on steroids with gang banger-types you see with pit bulls. I've always figured that if you were a real tough guy you wouldn't need no pit bull, but would be walking around with a Chihauhau or Yorkshire Terrier.

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I also compare taking steroids with cheating on a school test. If you get all the answers right on a college test but are found to have cheated, you don't don't get your grade lowered to a B or C, you get an F. In track and field if you are caught using steroids you receive a grade of 0 out of 100. You not only have to give up any awards, medals and records you received, you have to give up all money you won.

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bonds should be banned from baseball. if you use steroids or corked bats, you should be banned.

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Posted By: Daniel Bretta

Cheating has been a part of the game since Mike King Kelly started "rounding" third base. Steroids are a little seamier than skipping third base, but through the years many players corked their bats, scuffed/spit/vaselined et cetera, and since the 1950's half of the players were taking greenies (speed) in order to play day games after night games without being tired.

Ken Caminiti said that more than 50% of players in his era were taking steroids and I believe him...I believe that Barry Bonds was among those players without doubt, but he was still by far better than any other player on steroids hands down....I have never seen a player at the plate with that much confidence and ability. It truly is scary. He's a first ballot hall of famer and with or without the steroids I believe he is one of the greatest hitters of all time.

I still don't want to see him pass Hank Aaron though.

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