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Old 09-06-2018, 11:12 AM
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If you are standing on second base, your chance of scoring is better with nine other players on the Angels and Yankees than with Mike or Aaron.

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That's not true because you aren't counting the possibility of scoring on a HR by Trout or Judge. All you are capturing is the possibility of scoring on a non HR.
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That's not true because you aren't counting the possibility of scoring on a HR by Trout or Judge. All you are capturing is the possibility of scoring on a non HR.
We already know that their HRs are offset by an increased number of strikeouts. Of course second base is closer to your position in the field than the dugout, unless you are a designated hitter, so being stranded on second has its advantages.
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Old 09-06-2018, 04:58 PM
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My pre-caffeine analysis appears wrong. Very odd that Trout would score so low in that metric. I am searching for an explanation.
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And how many times with a runner on second and first base open is that top tier batter pitched around? I can for one do without rbioty.
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My pre-caffeine analysis appears wrong. Very odd that Trout would score so low in that metric. I am searching for an explanation.
My best explanation is that in the first half of the season he batted second behind Kinsler who was hitting less than .200. I suspect he had a higher percentage of solo home runs as a result. Kinsler certainly wasn’t setting the table for him.

Yes, he is pitched around. Intentional walks and semi-intentional walks inflate OBS and no doubt WAR. If he had better hitters behind him than Upton and Pujols or behind guys in front of him in the line up, I suspect his RBIOTY would be more respectable.

I just cannot buy into his “greatest” season ever with an RBI total in the low 60s in September.

Peter’s caffeinated reassessment is appreciated.
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I doubt the incremental AB a power hitter gets batting leadoff (Betts) or second (Trout) are worth the tradeoff in hitting behind weaker hitters. There is a reason power hitters almost always throughout history have been 3 4 and 5.
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