How Rare are T215 Red Cross Backs?

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Posted By: Brian Koyama

Are T215 Red Cross backs very rare? Are there any other "T" or "E" card that had the Red Cross backs? Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Brian

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Posted By: BROOKS

THE T207 CARRIED THE RED CROSS BRAND ALSO

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Posted By: TBob

Especially in nice shape. I sold 2 on ebay this week, a Chase holding trophy and a Dougherty, the first an SGC 40 and the last an SGC 60. Both were undergraded, especially the Chase which had no creases or wrinkles and pretty decent corners. Both were very clean. I felt the Chase should have been SGC 60 or 50 at the very least and the Dougherty a 70, but you know SGC...
Anyway, the pair sold for around $800, exceeding book.
I felt they would go even higher as the winning bidder said he would have gone much higher to get them. Only mild bidding interest which was surprising considering some of the prices run-of-the-mill-you-see-them-every- day T206 HOFers in similar condition have been getting. Ebay is always a matter of timing though and a couple of bidders emailed me after the auction to say they never saw them. Probably my fault for not using the selected features option.
As far as the T207 Red Crosses, Mssr. Leon owns the Weaver which is probably the most desirable of the 5 known. There is a rumor of a T207 Red Cross Lowdermilk, although I have never seen it. The others are probably equally vaulable (depending on condition) as they are all "common" tough backs. To explain that last sentence would take too much bandwidth

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Posted By: ty_cobb

TBobs T215s fetched a very nice price. I would
attribute the lack of bidder interest (including
myself) to the prices which were well over book
early in the bidding. Most auctions in which the
Vendomecat appears are a complete waste of time,
to win you'll have to pay too much for too little
in return. I'm waiting for the Vendomecat to go on
holidays so I don't have to feel sick spending so
much to 'win'. $800 is pretty steep for two Red
Cross commons, lots of better value deals out there.

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Posted By: fkw

I think the reason for the good $$ lately, in my opinion..... the T215 Red Cross cards are under valued in price guides of the present and past. T215's are far scarcer than cards valued in the same price range. $200 NRMT for an fairly scarce T215 common, is the same value or less as many more easily found cards of the era. For example, I see a good number of E93, E94, and E98 cards on eBay each and every month, yet sometime I may go a couple or more months before I see a single example from sets like T211 Red Sun, T215 Red Cross, T216 Kotton, D304, D310, D311, etc., all with values at or well below the most of the more popular "E" cards. Id easily pay $40 ea. for a clean VG T215 common, bring em on! Frank

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Posted By: ty_cobb

I bid well over high book price on the T215 Dougherty.
T215's don't come cheap. My point was that to win this
auction the next bid of $365 is not going to do it,
I would 'guesstimate' about $565 to beat the Vendomecat.
$365 is bad value never mind tyring to spend more.

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Posted By: JC

remember, the price book is just a GUIDE. If you like it, buy it. It will be more healthier for you, than sitting around thinking another one will come down the pipe-line. If your looking for a quick buck or your a dealer than that makes sence not to overpay. I thought this was a collectors forum? Only my opinion as Leon would say......

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Posted By: runscott

Why would a dealer get into baseball cards unless he had some interest in it? Every dealer I have ever spoken with had a very nice personal collection.

But it only makes good business sense to pay reasonable (not exhorbitant) prices for ANY card, unless you either are certain you will never get rid of it, or if you are so wealthy that money means absolutely nothing to you. I don't know anyone who fits into the latter category, and very few who fit into the first.

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Posted By: Scott M

I agree that the T215's are tougher to find than most candy issues. Both cards were extremely nice examples. And while the price they sold for was high, I think it was a combination of the scarcity along with the condition. Personally I bid what I thought was a lot due to the condition of the cards. Normally I'd just be looking for g-vg cards and for those I'd be more in the $40 range.

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Posted By: RC_McKenzie

I also did not bid on those 2 TBob T215's because I saw vendomecat on there. I think it's great what vendomecat does. He flushes out similar cards. When some granny heir sees that she can get 5 bills for T215's she may list them on ebay. Cheers

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Posted By: warshawlaw

Don't know if it is reported in the current spate of crappy resources (shameless plug for my soon-to-be-printed boxing card book). It is a boxing issue of 50 cards and the Red Cross backs are rare. You can generally find a lower condition common for $50-$70 or so; that assumes you can find the cards at all. I have catalogued only a handfull of the cards sold on ebay over the last couple of years. A full set of 50 in lower grade did sell for around $2,000 about a year or so ago.

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Posted By: TBob

with my graded T215s. A PSA 4 T215 Marquard went for $721.00 today and vendomecat was no where in sight!