Interesting Article On Peter Nash

[thetruthisoutthere]

I just found the below interesting article.

http://www.murraychass.com/?p=6099&u...On+Baseball%29

[David Atkatz]

Does any of this change the fact that so many of the "vintage" jerseys Halper sold to MLB for them to donate to the HoF were fakes? (And that Halper's stories of provenance could not possibly have been true?)
Or his well-publicized story--also a lie-- about playing under coach Jimmie Foxx in college?

Or, the irony of pointing out how unregulated, uncontrolled, and un-fact-checked internet blogs are. In your own blog.

[travrosty]

i guess halper didnt do anything wrong then because the person reporting it is someone mr. 2% doesnt like.

[HRBAKER]

No, it just means he's a vengeful crusader as opposed to a moral one!

[David Atkatz]

As long as he tells the truth, I don't care about his motives.

[shelly]

Chris, you posted it what are you thoughts.

[BigJJ]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

As long as he tells the truth, I don't care about his motives.

I agree. It is a benefit to have an additional fine mind reviewing auction listings.

But it is not truth to state an auctioneer's mal-intent, for every listing on which an error is made. Auctioneers make errors, and auctioneers rely on people who make errors.

It is a good service provided to have such errors, or possible errors, brought to light, and to debate. but it is a dis-service to spread distorted truth with regard to intent, etc.

The manner of the message is at least as important as the message itself.

I wish such reports were a little less emotion and less repetitive emotion, and more straight analytical.

[sylbry]

"I first encountered Nash’s name and talked to him in July 2011 for a column I wrote about how he had grotesquely maligned and tried to destroy the reputation – posthumously – of Barry Halper, a limited partner of the New York Yankees, a world renowned collector of baseball memorabilia and a genuinely good person."

Barry Halper's own lies and fraud destroyed his reputation. Murray Chass is trying to shoot the messenger.

Not really fair to compare Nash to Halper. Halper died a fraud while Nash turned the page.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by sylbry

Barry Halper, a limited partner of the New York Yankees, a world renowned collector of baseball memorabilia and a genuinely good person."

Any writer using those words does not have any credibility at all.

[thecatspajamas]

Originally Posted by Big Dave

I think Peter does an excellent job....and he has a lot of resources, of which many are of the human kind.

The question is, what kind of job is he working at? Is it straight-up investigative journalism? Hardly. He does make some good points here and there, but his stories are so slanted, it's no wonder he has to keep raking that muck or else it would roll right off.

Me, I'll stick to reading the posts here on Net54. That's where Pete gets most of the meat at the heart of his stories anyway, and personally, I prefer my meat without that sloppy gravy of heavily spun slander applied to it.

[sylbry]

Originally Posted by thecatspajamas

Me, I'll stick to reading the posts here on Net54. That's where Pete gets most of the meat at the heart of his stories anyway, and personally, I prefer my meat without that sloppy gravy of heavily spun slander applied to it.

Last year I visited the Bob Feller museum and saw Feller's Babe Ruth day bat. Seeing as it came from Halper I questioned the story behind it. I posed the question to this board and only heard crickets. I then posed the question to Nash. Here is what he said (I assume Nash won't mind me repeating this):

"I asked all the same questions you had in regard to the Feller bat and considering Halpers track record was very skeptical. I include my research on this bat in the book, which surprisingly reveals that the bat appears to be authentic. I was able to track down some hi res photos of Ruth using the BST as a cane and was able to match the grain of the bat in the photo with the bat in the museum.

I will email you some of the photos when I get a chance after thanksgiving."

and then a follow up:

"In addition, it does look like Robinson's [Eddie Robinson, the man who claims to have retrieved the bat after Ruth set it down] story checked out and he actually stood by the story which was repeated by a few of his relatives.

I must say I was surprised things checked out but relieved that Fellers. Museum hadn't been defrauded."

For those of you who think he is only out to bury Halper, here he supports Halper.

Nash deserves far more credit than many on this board are willing to give him. You can't change the past. If he could, maybe he would. Got to think others in this hobby who got caught with their hand in the cookie jar would like to change the past as well. However, in the present Nash is an advocate of cleaning up the hobby which makes him ok in my book.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by sylbry

Nash deserves far more credit than many on this board are willing to give him. You can't change the past. If he could, maybe he would. Got to think others in this hobby who got caught with their hand in the cookie jar would like to change the past as well. However, in the present Nash is an advocate of cleaning up the hobby which makes him ok in my book.

+1

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by sylbry

Nash deserves far more credit than many on this board are willing to give him. You can't change the past. If he could, maybe he would. Got to think others in this hobby who got caught with their hand in the cookie jar would like to change the past as well. However, in the present Nash is an advocate of cleaning up the hobby which makes him ok in my book.

Except that he refuses to pay the price for his misdeeds and as far as I know has never even owned up to them. "don't do the crime if you can't do the time..." Well, we're waiting.

I don't have an opinion on the Ruth bat in the Feller museum, but I did see it last year and took lots of pics and posted them to the memorabilia board.