Help, identify an authenticity Hologram Mickey Mantle Ted Williams paging Shelly

[MantleBham]

Can anyone help me identify this authenticity hologram? Also included the pic it's supposed to be authenticating. I just can't find a company name. I'm not an expert, but the signatures look good, in my none expert opinion.

[Mr. Zipper]

With or without the hologram, these are two common fakes.

[MantleBham]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

With or without the hologram, these are two common fakes.

That's my concern, but best I can tell, they look good.

I'm no expert and haven't seen enough to have a better than average opinion.

Williams
I look at the angle of the bottom of the T
The connector from d to w
the ll
the closed d and a
the finish of the s

Those all seem to line up

On Mantle, it's always tougher for me to tell.

They don't appear to be bananas to me
the 6 like configuration for the k e y
the two e's seem like the way he does it
the sharp upstroke from M to i with the i slightly leaning to the right

That's about all I know to check

[frankbmd]

Well, it’s

Genuine
Valid
Secure
Original
Authentic
and OK

I can’t read the seventh adjective on the hologram though.

Just based on the hologram, my vote is fake as well.

[MantleBham]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Well, it’s

Genuine
Valid
Secure
Original
Authentic
and OK

I can’t read the seventh adjective on the hologram though.

Just based on the hologram, my vote is fake as well.

Funny you say that, the hologram is the worst part! I agree completely. The last one is Q.C. Passed.

[shelly]

Looks like its from one of the companies in florida It is a real hologram

[MantleBham]

Originally Posted by shelly

Looks like its from one of the companies in florida It is a real hologram

I 100% trust you, but can you help me learn by pointing out what I missed?

I didn’t buy it, knew to come here first. Is it just too clean, and those two together?

I’m curious what on my checklist of things to look for as far as the signatures go I am not seeing.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by MantleBham

I 100% trust you, but can you help me learn by pointing out what I missed?

I didn’t buy it, knew to come here first. Is it just too clean, and those two together?

I’m curious what on my checklist of things to look for as far as the signatures go I am not seeing.

Teaching a particular autograph is not easy, but I think a process exists for 'learning' to validate any autograph;e.g-early 1950's Mantles or late-career Ruths or quickly-signed Gehrigs. You need to study, study, study, analyzing consciously what you learn after each 'lesson', then testing your memory every now and then. In each 'lesson' you learn something new and these learning points become part of your unconscious so that as you see examples of the autograph in question you are better able to unconsciously decide if it is good or not. If you can't decide quickly then it's probably a candidate for a new 'lesson';i.e-try to find similar examples, look at what's good and bad, decide if the autograph is good or bad, consciously consider what you have learned, letting your unconscious absorb the 'lesson'. You only become expert on that particular autograph over time, as the lessons sink in.

Trying to teach someone the above about a single autograph in one post is really impossible. For really bad ones you can point things out that make sense, but for others, like the above - they pass all your tests, but are obvious forgeries to experts like the guys above who responded to you. They didn't get this knowledge from someone in a single post.

[Steve D]

For me anyway, The "T" in Ted is too tall, and the bottom of the "W" is too high in comparison to the other letters.

On the Mantle, the top of the "k" is too rounded; it, in my view, should be more "flat"

Steve

[MantleBham]

Originally Posted by Steve D

For me anyway, The "T" in Ted is too tall, and the bottom of the "W" is too high in comparison to the other letters.

On the Mantle, the top of the "k" is too rounded; it, in my view, should be more "flat"

Steve

Thanks I appreciate it!