Will a Colorado Rockie EVER be Elected to the Hall of Fame?

[clydepepper]

I have not studied all the away stats for Walker, Helton or any of the current players, but I guessing it would take some really impressive stats away from Denver to make it possible.

What's your opinion?

Also, why would any pitcher, draftee or free agent EVER want to pitch half his games there?

[KCRfan1]

Someone should get to the HALL from the Rockies.

I am not a believer in penalizing a player because of where they play.

Todd Helton should be given strong consideration, as should Larry Walker.

[packs]

IMO Larry Walker is a HOFer. Even in Colorado you don't hit 360 or better 3 years in a row by accident. I think he was a better player than Andre Dawson and Jim Rice too.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by packs

IMO Larry Walker is a HOFer. Even in Colorado you don't hit 360 or better 3 years in a row by accident. I think he was a better player than Andre Dawson and Jim Rice too.

His sabremetric numbers are pretty decent, based on these it would not be a crime certainly.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...alkela01.shtml

Interestingly he ranks ahead of Gwynn in JAWS, Gwynn does not hold up too well I guess because he didn't walk and he didn't hit for power.

I think he probably would have had a better chance with a few more years and a few higher lifetime numbers, he barely broke 2000 hits and didn't break 400 HR although obviously he was of a similar or better caliber than players who did.

ADD Also seems he missed more than his share of games due to injury keeping his counting stats down.

Probably condemned to the Hall of the Very Good along with guys like Jim Edmonds.

[PowderedH2O]

I agree with Peter. Walker was an amazing player, but a non-catcher position player that only has one season in which he played at least 144 games is going to have a hard time getting elected. Walker missed over 700 games in his career for various reasons.

With Helton, his road numbers are just not that great. At home he is Ted Williams, and on the road he is Willie Horton. Without Helton ever having played elsewhere, we will never know exactly where he should fall on the list. He could get in, but somehow I doubt it.

I think the Rockies HOFer is going to be someone that puts up all-star caliber numbers on the road. Nolan Arenado?

[KCRfan1]

Helton posted good road numbers. Let's not under sell him.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Probably condemned to the Hall of the Very Good along with guys like Jim Edmonds.

I hope that you're wrong about Edmonds not getting in.

[bravos4evr]

Originally Posted by Sean

I hope that you're wrong about Edmonds not getting in.

it'll be up to the committee as he fell of the ballot after only a year or so. IMO, if you are a Jim Edmonds fan, you should be rooting for Andruw Jones to get in as he is only 2.6 fWAR ahead of Edmonds and if Jones gets in, it buttresses Edmonds' case.

ETA: one thing that hurts Edmonds is roids. His best seasons were ages 32-35, that doesn't look very good.