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Old 01-11-2018, 09:58 AM
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I forgot about that, I remember the Topps Gold and the Fleer Rookie Sensations being popular, though if I remember correctly the Rookie Sensations were one per pack but the style of pack they came in was scarce.

When I think of "chase" cards I think of 1993 on to about 1999-2000 when attention turned to the game used. There were a few GU starting in about 1997 but there were so few that not many people had them.
No, they were not 1 per pack. They were random with no stated odds. Out of a box of cellos, I have seen boxes with only 1. I believe the average was about 4. It has been 25 years since I was busting those. That is why the Frank Thomas was bringing big bucks at the time.

There were definitely more than Rookie Sensations. All of the Ultra inserts were hot. Donruss made their popular Diamond Kings inserts. Collectors were chasing everything to complete their master sets. Card companies saw collectors would bust more packs to get these cards, so they just kept upping the odds until we got /25 inserts and 1/1 parallels.
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I have it down to 1993 and 2001.

1993 - The launch of SP Baseball and SP Football. Both products were incredibly popular plus the die-cut inserts were always in demand. That same year, we were introduced to 1993 Topps Finest baseball and the "refractor" craze was just beginning. Another brilliant product that took the hobby by storm. Inserts were a big focus, not only in these products, but others as someone else mentioned, but SP and Finest were HUGE!

2001 - Ichiro and Pujols drove the baseball card market. Low serial numbered cards and redemptions of either one of these two HoFers were HUGE too. Football was special too with Michael Vick (before his downward spiral), LaDainian Tomlinson, Drew Brees rookie cards hitting the market. I still remember opening a box of 2001 Topps Heritage and hoping for one of these studs, but ended up pulling the #2 overall pick, Leonard Davis. I still have the card, lol.

Anyway, there you go!
When I think of 1993, I think of Shaq and the beginning of the end of baseball cards. Maybe it was just my area, but the only thing people bought was Basketball and Finest Baseball. SP and other products sold poorly. My sales of baseball cards was probably about 10% of what they were in 1992, then after the 1994 strike, nothing.
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Old 01-11-2018, 10:20 AM
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When I think of 1993, I think of Shaq and the beginning of the end of baseball cards. Maybe it was just my area, but the only thing people bought was Basketball and Finest Baseball. SP and other products sold poorly. My sales of baseball cards was probably about 10% of what they were in 1992, then after the 1994 strike, nothing.
Shaq was huge. I forgot that he was under contract with "Classic" until the end of the year (1992). Series two products were popular, from the 1992/93 Hoops, that included the Magic All Rookie insert to the 1992/93 Stadium release which included the Beam Team card. Good times!
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And there's 94, which had (I think) the first 1/1 cards. Edge football had a series of cards called supreme season review or something like that. Really long odds, like 1/4000 packs. I got one, and since it wasn't labeled or serial numbered it took a while to figure out that it was one of those, and even longer to find out that it was a 1/1.

There was hardly any mention of them at the time, and even less since then.
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Old 01-13-2018, 07:26 PM
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[quote=steve B;1737333]LOL, I thought you meant the Upper Deck... Sometimes I totally miss things.
I see Fleer glossy as more of its own set, but it's interesting Beckett thinks of it as a parallel. How do they list the Nestles, and desert storm, and for that matter the tiffany and score glossy sets? They were all issued on their own in different forms.

Just as an FYI -- and I'm doing this from long-ago memory and that's more than 10 years now. The reason they are called "Parallels" in Beckett is because the checklists are identical and to ensure the checklists moved properly and did not have to be typed in AGAIN, we used a parallel nomenclature.

That way, one could just copy over a checklist in the data base fairly easily. Of course, there was the month I deleted the 1989 Topps set from the data base but that's a different story but related to this.

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Thanks Rich! I think it's interesting to hear the inside story of how things got where they are in the cataloging end of the hobby.

Oddly, considering the hobby in general much of what I've heard is pretty straightforward compared to the cataloging of stamps, where egos etc get in the way of getting obvious stuff added and getting old mistakes - often made decades ago corrected.
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1990 Donruss - officially, the end of the 'true' error card.
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