Grading cards Ebay style

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Posted By: Glen V

Does the overgrading of cards annoy anyone else? Is there a new grading scale for Ebay?

Not to pick on this seller, but as a good example, is this card only VG because the hole through the card, not to mention stains and a large crease? (Wait, the seller claims no creases.) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31719&item=2717466916&rd=1

Would it be EX w/o the hole? NM? (Remember, this is from one of the most reputable and honest sellers of all time!) If a card is valuable, do you get to up the grade automatically?

Let me know the new grading rules - THANKS!

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Posted By: jay behrens

I saw this card too. It's always amazing how 'reputable' dealers are completley unable to grade cards. Just look at Kit Young, Larry Fritsch, et al. All 'reputable' dealers that couldn't properly grade a card if their life depended on it. Sadly, their livelyhood seems to depend on them misgrading their cards.

Jay

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Posted By: MW

Oops!

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Posted By: leon

Ask those same dealers to grade a card you are selling to them.....me thinks it will be a different story....all about money.....regards all

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Posted By: warshawlaw

Since these dealers are so blinded by the money to be made in overgrading their crap and undergrading their purchases, how about having a third party opine as to the grades of the cards? We could call it a "grading service". Of course, we'd have to put the cards into some kind of "holder" with a "grade" label on it. But how should we grade the cards? Maybe like school grades (A, B C, etc or 0-100 scale)? Nah, how about like chicks, 1-10? Best of all, as a lawyer I can write a heck of a disclaimer into the fine print on our invoices so that we are not responsible for any mistakes we make. After all, I've never seen a lot of rare type cards and I sure don't want to be held liable for mistakenly authenticating a fake one.

Who wants to go for it?

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Posted By: david

the seller is verkman, he had these in his past few catalogs for around 500-600. i think everyone on this board is aware of his grading inadequacies.

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Posted By: Eric

you'd have upgraded this card to a VG perhaps. I was actually thinking about inviting Verkman over to grade my cards, as he seems to have a perfect record of seeing beauty beyond beauty. I wish he worked at SCG, I'd send off everything to him personally.
Even though the issue in question here is the oldest baseball card set in the 20th century, it doesn't make allowances for two enlarged pinholes, and what appears to be caramel stains (how'd they get there?). This card would be accurately graded as POOR in my book, even if I owned it...maybe a Fair-. This incident doesn't bother or surprise me....because,after all..he has stated the following..
"We are one of the most reputable and honest sellers in the history of the sports memorabilia and autograph business and have been quoted and/or profiled on CNBC, Newsweek Magazine, the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal."
Hey Steve..can I get a LOA for the stains too..I wanna make sure they're real?!