Babe Ruth opinions?

[Jaymz023]

I am looking to add a babe ruth autograph to my collection at some point. I am nervous because of secretarial signatures being mistaken as the real deal. Do any of you know how to spot the difference between an authentic and secretarial or forged?

Ill post a couple photos and maybe you can give your opinions on if they might be real or fake.

each photo is a different item. One has a coa from EAC Gallery and one has a LOA from Frank Garo. I dont wanna say which ones have the "authentication" because in a way thats irrelevant.

So, thoughts on the photos? Advice on how to tell whats real and whats not?

[David Atkatz]

The two cuts are forgeries. Bad forgeries. The last two baseballs are good. The first ball is so worn that it's really impossible to tell. (But I have never seen a forgery so worn.)
And, finally, Ruth's "secretarials" are well known, and never mistaken for genuine by the experienced. It's the forgeries you should worry about.

[Jaymz023]

David, can you maybe explain why they are bad forgeries? What should I look for to help tell the difference between whats real and whats not?

[packs]

The first cut looks like it took an hour to write. It's written so deliberately and slowly. That would tip me off right away.

No comment on the second one.

[RichardSimon]

Very amateurish forgeries on the cuts.
Mr Garo and I usually have differing opinions.

[Jaymz023]

Does Garo have a bad rep?

Nevermind in this-I found a good thread here all about him.