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Old 04-12-2016, 12:55 PM
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Default 1974 topps 385 don gullett

Not sure is this has been noticed before or not, but found this Gullett card with a limited recurring border break along the bottom team banner.
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I picked up this interesting "freak" at a flea market today:

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Good one Howie, since the Brinkman is already has a recognized 1968 yellow variation... even though the variation is in all cases a Milton Bradley card. Is the yellow a real variation of the 68 set or just a "common" card of the MB set ? Or both ?

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Has anyone ever seen this before with this Aaron card or any other from the 1960 set? Could it be doctored?

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Interesting Larry. I have not seen anything like it in 1960. I have a couple of similar things from other years. Great card if a legit print defect



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Al, after seeing the 63 Retzer, it certainly seems likely that this 60 Aaron is legit.

In regards to the 68 Torborg, I have a Hiller #461 with a similar print defect on the right side.....I could not find an uncut sheet from this series, but I wonder if the Torborg and Hiller are next to each other on the sheet?

Here is an image of the 60 Aaron also:
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Has anyone ever seen this before with this Aaron card or any other from the 1960 set? Could it be doctored?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-TOPPS-3...3D371595093061
Very cool card. Looks to be missing most of the black ink. Doubt it is doctored, pretty hard to remove the black in the logo and leave the red.
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Larry-- I have one of the Hiller's as well, both it and the Retzer are recurring. Wonder if the Aaron is unique.
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Ben, I agree, it does appear that just the black ink is missing from that area of the card and this Aaron is legit.

Al, my guess is that either or both of the cards that appeared next to Aaron (or possibly all 11 on the Aaron's row) on it's original sheet are likely missing the black ink in the same area. I was not able to locate an image of the sheet from that series to see which cards were located next to the Aaron. Even with the age of the internet, I have never seen any other 1960 Topps cards like this, so it may very well be unique.
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Default 1963 Topps 5 NL ERA leaders

Found this..while it is tough to see, the left's card "C" on the cap stays on the white, while on the other, the "C" extends just slightly onto the blue background. Imagine there being yet another cropping variation on a 63 Topps card, and as with many of the cropping variations, there appear to be an equal number of each.
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Larry---I have both by accident. I have 3 of those cards in my set. I think Thomas ( sliphorn) had pointed out to me before that the card can be found with the yellow top extending border to border, or with varying degrees of white on the left top where the yellow does not fully extend
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Al, Joe also has a copy of this card where the black border line along the left edge of the card missing....it appears that there are now 3 separate variations for this one card....possibly more depending on if any copies have more than 1 of the variations.
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I think Cliff has posted several 63s with the top black borders missing. I understand there is another group of cards that can be found with a side black border missing. All are fairly scarce. I am still 3 short on the cards missing the top border

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Default 1969 topps 507 rojas

Until today, I had not seen this recurring small green dot on Cookie's 69 Topps card....
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This defect recurs pretty regularly on that card as well

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Has anyone seen a 67 with a "yellow" back before? It appears to be faded on my end despite the description, then again I don't have the card in hand either.



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Yeah, I'm with you. That 'yellow' looks pretty close to just the standard green having faded a bit.
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Has anyone seen a 67 with a "yellow" back before? It appears to be faded on my end despite the description, then again I don't have the card in hand either.



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Has anyone ever seen green fade to yellow on a baseball card? I will have to see if I have one and give it a try.
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I noticed this one today...a small white triangle beneath the player's name.
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1969 Topps #644 - Chuck Hinton
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1969 Topps Chuck Hinton #644 with "ameobas" above USA. Plenty of them on COMC, so I wouldn't put a premium on it.
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139T Team Color Variation which seems to be same as as White Sox Also yellow bleed over in name and Phillies
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I noticed a different version of the Grant Jackson card...while most copies have a regular sized dot over the "j" in Jackson, there is also a version with a very small dot over the 'j".
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Has anyone seen a 67 with a "yellow" back before? It appears to be faded on my end despite the description, then again I don't have the card in hand either.



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The 67 Topps card backs fade to yellow fairly easy. Here is a Dick Green that used to be a nice normal green color.
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Ty Ben for putting this to the test....Dick Green appears to also be a SD native, is that why you chose to sacrifice his card?
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Ty Ben for putting this to the test....Dick Green appears to also be a SD native, is that why you chose to sacrifice his card?
Fellow member PaulS was kind enough to send me a bunch of different year cards to experiment on for free. It was the first 67 I came across in the pile. Hopefully my experiments have saved people from paying premiums for altered cards.
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Been out of the country for a bit. Did the 1960 Aaron with the defective insert posted here sell ?

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The listing ended unsold on May 16. At that price, that baby isn't selling until YOU buy it .
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Been out of the country for a bit. Did the 1960 Aaron with the defective insert posted here sell ?
Al, those would look super cool with the parts that are supposed to be missing the green turned yellow.

Here is a nice print offset card I recently picked up. Really like the second set of eyes on Robertson.
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1996 Upper Deck #200 Mark on pants leg, just noticed it
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Found a limited recurring yellow square near the lower right hand corner of this card....
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Unfortunately when locating one of them on ebay I also ran across one where the box is rectangular rather than square, so had to buy it too . This thread has cost me quite a bit of money over time
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Thomas---I have two Millers in my set. One is the version where there is not any green on the back, including the green box lines around the stats. This is a scarce but recurring print defect. My no green version has the front nose triangle. Does yours have that no green back, or can the triangle be found on regular backs as well
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I do not have a no green back on Miller. I think all the nose rings have green on eBay as well.
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These are scans of the NOF vs. NNOF and PR vs. SC pairs. Notice the shifting and color differences.
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In the realm of absolutely minor, but recurring, variations, there is 1962 #126, Al Cicotte. On a good number of his cards, he has an anomalous beauty mark on his left cheek and a small, matching spot beneath his right nostril…

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Been out of the country for a bit. Did the 1960 Aaron with the defective insert posted here sell ?
Uh oh, someone just bought it for $500 yesterday.
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I think I posted this before but I am still wondering if this is a print defect?
All the cards I looked at also have this red dot on his forehead so I am curious if this is a printing defect or is there a chance Billy had this mole/mark on his forehead? (It's pretty red so doubt it but don't want to be insensitive it is is?)

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I think I posted this before but I am still wondering if this is a print defect?
All the cards I looked at also have this red dot on his forehead so I am curious if this is a printing defect or is there a chance Billy had this mole/mark on his forehead? (It's pretty red so doubt it but don't want to be insensitive it is is?)

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What church do you attend Thomas that red dots people on Ash Wednesday

Irv-- the Topps cards prior to 57 were not colored photographs but rather black and white photos that were later colorized, and if you check his other cards from other years on eBay, they do not show red. BUT he does seem to have a growth there. I think you can find his 52 with no red

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Irv-- the Topps cards prior to 57 were not colored photographs but rather black and white photos that were later colorized, and if you check his other cards from other years on eBay, they do not show red. BUT he does seem to have a growth there. I think you can find his 52 with no red
Thanks, Al.

I wasn't aware of that.

I haven't come across a 52 (yet) without the red dot so I was assuming these cards were one offs and not double printed?
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Those lines show up on just about every Topps set. Not always on every card. I believe they're marks to help the people running the cutter. So they'd probably have dropped them when they went with more automated cutters.

1970 Topps I'm pretty sure every card comes with a line or without. And there are different lines on some cards.

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Agree that the 70 set and many others can be found with lines at top or bottom of cards. Often gray or black, and they can extend all across card or be partial. This red mark looks a little different to me, maybe just errant ink,... or maybe it is a partial line

Tom---do you know if it is recurring ?
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Agree that the 70 set and many others can be found with lines at top or bottom of cards. Often gray or black, and they can extend all across card or be partial. This red mark looks a little different to me, maybe just errant ink,... or maybe it is a partial line

Tom---do you know if it is recurring ?
I have only seen this one so who knows. I only know of it because I was eyeballing my cards to look for these type of things an found this one. If anyone else has one, that would be great.
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I have only seen this one so who knows. I only know of it because I was eyeballing my cards to look for these type of things an found this one. If anyone else has one, that would be great.
If you go to post #492 in this thread, I showed some 1959's that have a similar thing going on, although the crop(?) lines are vertical (on the right side) instead of horizontal.
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I have only seen this one so who knows. I only know of it because I was eyeballing my cards to look for these type of things an found this one. If anyone else has one, that would be great.
None of my 52 Topps cards have that red line that I am aware of?

I also own a Cloyd Boyer card so I'll have a look tomorrow just to clarify.
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Example of the lines in side front borders that Darren mentioned on a 1959 card---one dark, one red on lower right. On this one the red looks more line like to me


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