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Old 04-04-2017, 08:10 PM
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I sold a card and it was paid for on 1/3/2017 and now 4/4/2017 the buyer states that they didn't authorize the purchase. This item was listed for a certain price or best offer. I accepted their best offer. and now 3 freaking months later they want their money back. Wal-Mart doesn't even accept returns after 60 days.

What can I do? PayPal says that they are reviewing this as soon as possible. At this time, they need no further action or information from me. Will they ask for my argument?



I will just stop now and wait for the comments.
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Old 04-04-2017, 08:12 PM
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Hoping for the best for you. This is why I'm afraid to even sell high priced items to people I don't know.
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Old 04-04-2017, 08:14 PM
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total with shipping was $103.50
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Old 04-04-2017, 08:18 PM
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Some of these buyers have mental issues, substance abuse problems, alcohol issues, etc. Wake up three months later and have Buyers remorse. Feel bad for them whatever the issue is but tough luck. Not your problem.
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Old 04-04-2017, 08:27 PM
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Some of these buyers have mental issues, substance abuse problems, alcohol issues, etc. Wake up three months later and have Buyers remorse. Feel bad for them whatever the issue is but tough luck. Not your problem.
But will PayPal just side with the Buyer or will I have a chance to say how dumb this is??? If I made a mistake in the listing, I would accept a return.... If buyer got the card and didn't like it and wanted to return it within two weeks, yea i would accept return if card was in same condition. (this card was graded)..

But this is not my fault... It's not my fault that they made and offer and I accepted it... I thought it says that you are agreeing to pay for the item if you win whenever you bid or make an offer.

I just haven't had a problem with selling cards. Maybe I can sell it for more the 2nd time. Joke will be on them.


and how would i go about blocking this ebay id from seeing/bidding/thinking about bidding/making offers/thinking about making offer on my auctions???
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Old 04-08-2017, 08:10 PM
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But will PayPal just side with the Buyer or will I have a chance to say how dumb this is??? If I made a mistake in the listing, I would accept a return.... If buyer got the card and didn't like it and wanted to return it within two weeks, yea i would accept return if card was in same condition. (this card was graded)..

But this is not my fault... It's not my fault that they made and offer and I accepted it... I thought it says that you are agreeing to pay for the item if you win whenever you bid or make an offer.

I just haven't had a problem with selling cards. Maybe I can sell it for more the 2nd time. Joke will be on them.


and how would i go about blocking this ebay id from seeing/bidding/thinking about bidding/making offers/thinking about making offer on my auctions???



Hey there Ben! Ive had this issue before. You need to call paypal and plead your case before they cime with a resolution. Ive learned with paypal they usually side with which ever party is willing to call and complain. Hahaha...

They rulled in my favor because i told them it was 2 months ago (which was my scenario). I cant see paypal favoring them though
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Get your documents in order:
1) Where the item was sold from (eBay, board message, emails, etc).
2) Find your tracking number to prove delivery.

There is a scam going around because eBay auctions only stay in eBay's history for two months. So sellers enter the tracking number there, to prove the item was delivered, and normally throw out the tracking receipt once the item shows delivered. So if they get a PayPal chargeback between 3-6 months, 90% of sellers won't have the tracking number to prove it was delivered.
My expectation is that PayPal will either force you to take the return, or they'll refund the buyer out of their own pocket and possibly lock the buyer's account.
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Old 04-04-2017, 08:36 PM
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Get your documents in order:
1) Where the item was sold from (eBay, board message, emails, etc).
2) Find your tracking number to prove delivery.

There is a scam going around because eBay auctions only stay in eBay's history for two months. So sellers enter the tracking number there, to prove the item was delivered, and normally throw out the tracking receipt once the item shows delivered. So if they get a PayPal chargeback between 3-6 months, 90% of sellers won't have the tracking number to prove it was delivered.
My expectation is that PayPal will either force you to take the return, or they'll refund the buyer out of their own pocket and possibly lock the buyer's account.

January 5, 2017, 12:03 pm Delivered, In/At Mailbox TOMS RIVER, NJ 08757
Your item was delivered in or at the mailbox at 12:03 pm on January 5, 2017 in TOMS RIVER, NJ 08757.
January 5, 2017, 9:26 am Out for Delivery TOMS RIVER, NJ 08757
January 5, 2017, 9:12 am Sorting Complete TOMS RIVER, NJ 08757
January 5, 2017, 3:31 am Arrived at Post Office TOMS RIVER, NJ 08753
January 4, 2017, 10:32 pm Departed USPS Destination Facility KEARNY, NJ 07032
January 4, 2017, 9:38 pm Arrived at USPS Facility KEARNY, NJ 07032
January 4, 2017, 6:00 am Departed USPS Facility LOUISVILLE, KY 40231
January 3, 2017, 11:25 pm Arrived at USPS Origin Facility LOUISVILLE, KY 40231
January 3, 2017, 10:10 pm Accepted at USPS Origin Facility LOUISVILLE, KY 40229
January 3, 2017, 7:57 pm Shipping Label Created, USPS Awaiting Item LOUISVILLE, KY 40229
January 3, 2017 Pre-Shipment Info Sent to USPS, USPS Awaiting Item


I found the tracking... it was delivered. ughhhhhhhhhhhh
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Old 04-04-2017, 08:48 PM
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The buyer may have forgotten they bought the item. I had something similar happen before.

A guy bought an item from me, and when his wife saw the charge, she asked him about it and he told her he didn't remember buying anything. She thought the charge was fraudulent, so she opened up a case with PP. I sent her a message with the pertinent purchase information and she dropped the case.
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