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Come on Rick, this is absurd.
I'll admit, I have stood up for this seller in the past when he gets ganged attacked about his business practices, but this is unacceptable. You and your employees have got to be able to read a flip.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/361397486574
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I don't see the issue. Has he fixed it since you posted, or am I just missing it?
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It says PSA/DNA Auto. It is not an Auto card or PSA/DNA graded.
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I emailed him about the card, but no it has not been fixed yet. You and the flip are missing the most important thing relative to this card: PSA/DNA.
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Yes, I just figured that out. The "Authentic" on the flip refers to the card, not the autograph, correct? I do think that Probstein needs to be an expert in this and advertise his wares correctly, but I think PSA is more to blame with this crap. They need to deal with this as well by being more explicit about what exactly they have authenticated.
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I know nothing about autos but is the MJ auto real? Given the card is graded authentic to me that would mean the auto is fake.
Is this a type of scam where someone puts a fake auto on a card and gets the card graded authentic hoping someone will also think the auto is real? |
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For example, I think it is appropriate that they put "auto grade only" on blue flips that have a number grade so that we won't be fooled into thinking that the card itself is a "10" (I think grading autographs is pretty stupid, but at least they are being very clear). Ip (or forged) autos like this one need the same sort of distinction: "card only" in reference to the Authentic label.
Just my opinion.
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PSA should stop slabbing cards with autos on them unless the auto is getting authenticated.
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Why doesn't it have a MK qualifier?
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No numbered grade, so no need.
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Which is really the original purpose of the "Authentic" designation, to ignore any alterations and simply state that this is the card that was issued by the manufacturer.
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I agree with your general premise here, but it raises questions about whether any writing at all would constitute an "auto" (not to mention that PSA wouldn't consider the option because it would cut into the bottom line). I think th middle ground is to make what has been authenticated MUCH clearer on the flip itself.
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It seems to me that the sole intent of the the person that got this card "authenticated" was to swindle someone out of their money.
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I think more and more people might go this route to try and move fakes, which sadly might be what has to happen for PSA to make their flips clearer. The red/blue flip distinction is notorious (just search the question and see how many times it has been asked by collectors on various message boards). While it does not say PSA/DNA anywhere on that flip, the giant AUTHENTIC clearly causes confusion about the scribbling on the face of that card (per the current auction price). To the OP's point, Probstein listing PSA/DNA in the title is poor practice and inexcusable.
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I don't understand what's going on here. What's the difference between this Jordan card and this card that's the subject of another thread?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1953-Topps-J...vip=true&rt=nc Holders look the same. Both say just PSA and they're red bordered labels. Based just on the holder and label, how can one auto be good and the other bad? |
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$240.50 shipped. Looks like everybody but the new owner did amazingly well on that $17 card. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2001-UD-Ovat...p2047675.l2557
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The auction did close and someone made a $250 mistake, but I did receive an email from Rick this morning stating that he was in contact with PSA regarding the card. Hopefully he doesn't ship until they get this right.
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We are all going to look like Papa Smurf if we wait for that response. He was just placating you. Earlier this year I notified him that the Bill Russell index card he had listed under basketball autographs was the baseball player and not the basketball player. His response: 'Thank you for letting me know' or some such dribble. Of course someone paid well over $70.00 for a $1.00, at best, signature. The listing merely said a Bill Russell index card, but the placement certainly played a role in the bidding.
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I suspect confusion is one reason why PSA stopped using the red flips for PSA DNA. Stupidly, they now refuse to allow the red flips on the PSA DNA registry. So, even if you have a PSA DNA certified autograph, you can't drop it into a registry set if it has the red flip. Or that's what they told me.
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Edited to clarify something first.
Edit 2: I've heard nothing about them discontinuing red DNA flips, can you link something confirming this?
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