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I sure like it also as I teach U.S. History and it seems to be honoring our Allies during WW1. If anybody knows what game of the World Series they held this event I’d sure like to know. Each person is holding a flag representing our allies.
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Just picked up this Frankie Frisch over the weekend at The Philly Show:

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Love the Frisch, Andrew.

Here is a portrait of Benny Kauff, part of a series of hand studies Conlon undertook from 1913-1917.
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Love the Frisch, Andrew.

Here is a portrait of Benny Kauff, part of a series of hand studies Conlon undertook from 1913-1917.
Phenomenal! Never seen that one before.
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Wow, great shot of Meyers.
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Wow, great shot of Meyers.
Thanks. I love that he captured Meyers with his hat off—there is nothing that says ‘baseball.’ One of my favorite Conlons for that reason.
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Paul, I'll agree with Jeff, that shot of Meyers is top-notch.

I've always really liked the close-up shots that he did. The ones of Ruth and Gehrig are obviously pretty classic, but it's nice seeing them when they're uncropped, which I don't know if I've ever seen in any format other than the negatives. The ones from the 1910s, however, mostly seem to have the majority of the faces intact.

Really cool.
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This is how Conlon printed the Ruth and Gehrig close-ups.
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Old 12-05-2018, 07:09 AM
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Here is Gehrig.
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Paul, I'll agree with Jeff, that shot of Meyers is top-notch.

I've always really liked the close-up shots that he did. The ones of Ruth and Gehrig are obviously pretty classic, but it's nice seeing them when they're uncropped, which I don't know if I've ever seen in any format other than the negatives. The ones from the 1910s, however, mostly seem to have the majority of the faces intact.

Really cool.
Are you saying that you prefer the extreme close-ups of 1913 to those from 1927? And that the reason is that Conlon cropped the 1927 Yankees in the camera?
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Shoeless Joe Jackson’s batting grip
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Have you ever thought about what a Charles Conlon photographic exhibition would look like?

I’ve put together an exhibition that I’m about to pitch to various museums across the country. If you would like to see it, I’d be happy to send you a private link to view it. Your feedback would be most appreciated.
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Can you please explain how you approached curating the contents of the exhibition?
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The key to understanding Conlon is that nearly all of his work was done on assignment—he was always shooting what Spalding’s Guide wanted and very rarely what interested him as a photographer. There were a series of photographic essays, however, that explored the aging ‘batting eyes’ of his subjects, and the batting grips of leading sluggers and the differences in the hands of catchers, infielders, and outfielders. The eyes and hands, in particular, were very innovative portraits, and I thought it was important for viewers to see those prints and what Conlon was trying to achieve with that portraiture.

Other sections explore action photography—Conlon employed a few tricks and would, for example, try to capture a bat’s movement as it slows down near the end of a swing—and Conlon’s relationships with Mathewson, McGraw, and others, which set him apart from other photographers.
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1904 New York Giants team photo attributed to Conlon
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Do you have any other batting grips?
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This is Tris Speaker’s batting grip. Conlon took it to show how Speaker held his lead shoulder. You’ll never look at a T206 of Speaker the same way again.
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I keep all my type 1 Conlons in this neat little folder I purchased (it was in my price range):

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Thanks for posting the Speaker.
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I keep all my type 1 Conlons in this neat little folder I purchased (it was in my price range):

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Here are some more Conlon’s I just added to my collection.
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I feel strongly that these are not vintage prints (i.e., Type 1) and believe instead that all Underwoods are copy prints of Conlons. Others disagree. The Ruth and Gehrig aren’t mine—I own them only in their uncropped versions.

If anyone has prints of Paschal or Grabowski, I would be a very interested buyer.
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Great group Andy!
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Apparently Henry has evidence that Underwood used Conlon negatives. If such evidence exists, then my assertion is wrong and I apologize. If anyone can access the evidence, it would be interesting.
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Apparently Henry has evidence that Underwood used Conlon negatives. If such evidence exists, then my assertion is wrong and I apologize. If anyone can access the evidence, it would be interesting.
I agree with Paul. I also would like to learn more about the evidence. Ideally, I'd like to view the evidence.
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Here is a collection of 1904 Conlon Type 1 HOFers. 1904 was the first year he photographed baseball.

Griffith, Wagner, Willis
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I love the 1904s!
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That incredible grouping looks even better framed up! Congratulations, Jim!
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I feel strongly that these are not vintage prints (i.e., Type 1) and believe instead that all Underwoods are copy prints of Conlons. Others disagree. The Ruth and Gehrig aren’t mine—I own them only in their uncropped versions.

If anyone has prints of Paschal or Grabowski, I would be a very interested buyer.
Can you share images of your uncropped versions of these?
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Can you share images of your uncropped versions of these?
I’m traveling, but will do it when I return.
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Awesome Jim!
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Those 1904's look great Jim. Love the display!
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I’m having trouble photographing this without reflection. The eyes have been enhanced. I’ve always been struck by this print’s middle tones compared to the Underwood print, which is very high contrast. Copy prints build up contrast.

Let me be clear that I have a financial interest in seeing all Underwood Conlon prints as copy prints. There are a substantial number of people who believe that Conlon had an affiliation with Underwood—you can read it in the current Leland’s catalog, for example. I encourage anyone with evidence of a relationship between Conlon and Underwood to share it.
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Love my Charles Conlon Ed Sweeney Type 1 Photo
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