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Old 01-18-2019, 10:03 AM
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Maybe, as Steve said above, cards really are starting to be a legitimate part of a financial portfolio? That could explain some of the rise in prices of the best looking cards.
It definitely is. In order to assemble a decent t206 set in PSA 3, your going to spend what, 100 thousand dollars? Bump that to 5s and 6s and you are in the McMansion investment range when your collection might just be worth more than your house.

They have been investments for a long time. Only recently are people talking about it.

How many people here have collections over 1,2,300k a million dollars? I am willing to bet there are several hundreds of people.
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Old 01-18-2019, 10:32 AM
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Maybe, as Steve said above, cards really are starting to be a legitimate part of a financial portfolio? That could explain some of the rise in prices of the best looking cards.
Investors have been putting together baseball card portfolios for as long as I can remember, so there is nothing new there.
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Old 01-18-2019, 10:49 AM
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Over the last 10 years the DOW has had its greatest historical increase. The national unemployment rate has moved to a very low level, lowest in many years. The supply of investment quality cards isn't going up. These 3 factors could have significant impact on the price of "good" cards.
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Old 01-18-2019, 11:01 AM
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I am bummed out by the portrait Johnson t206 prices, but oh well. I was 2nd high bidder on a stretch about a year and a half ago for some psa 3s. Any idea that is dead and buried for the time being.

I think the individual card prices are becoming more standardized with current card collecting. There are a few cards worth disproportionately more than others. If we knock out the short prints, we are now watching the rise of the 'chase' cards.
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Old 01-18-2019, 11:19 AM
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The cards have been around for 100 years. People are just realizing they are attractive? Makes no sense.
Makes no sense? How else do you explain the disparity between the Red Cobb and the Green Cobb other than one looks nicer than the other? How else do you explain the disparity between action poses and portraits other than the portraits are nicer looking cards? Why does the E-90 Cy Young card sell for so much money? You don't think it has anything to do with the image on the card?

My point is that aesthetics could be playing a larger role in collecting today whereas rarity or types could have been the motivating force behind past sales. I don't care about rarity anymore. I want NICE cards. I'm sure I'm not alone.

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Old 01-18-2019, 11:22 AM
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Over the last 10 years the DOW has had its greatest historical increase. The national unemployment rate has moved to a very low level, lowest in many years. The supply of investment quality cards isn't going up. These 3 factors could have significant impact on the price of "good" cards.
Agreed! We could be in a card bubble. Or not. No way to know really except to wait it out and see.

Cards being discussed in this thread are investments as well as parts of collections. My guess is the people who think of themselves as collectors only have some way to know what they paid for a card but also have a pretty good idea of value. Very similar to how an investor thinks if you ask me.

The beauty of all of this is we can be both collectors and investors doing what we enjoy doing. I know that's how I look at it!
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Old 01-18-2019, 11:32 AM
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Actually I don't think, relative to other cards, the E90-1 Young portrait sells for a lot. I think it's still an affordable (for now) and great looking card. The best looking cards are definitely being gobbled up and their prices reflect it.

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Makes no sense? How else do you explain the disparity between the Red Cobb and the Green Cobb other than one looks nicer than the other? How else do you explain the disparity between action poses and portraits other than the portraits are nicer looking cards? Why does the E-90 Cy Young card sell for so much money? You don't think it has anything to do with the image on the card?

My point is that aesthetics could be playing a larger role in collecting today whereas rarity or types could have been the motivating force behind past sales. I don't care about rarity anymore. I want NICE cards. I'm sure I'm not alone.
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Old 01-18-2019, 11:37 AM
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Actually I don't think, relative to other cards, the E90-1 Young portrait sells for a lot. I think it's still an affordable (for now) and great looking card. The best looking cards are definitely being gobbled up and their prices reflect it.

I don't see how one could argue against that idea. Any card depicting the Horner portrait of Wagner sells at a considerable premium, even the Colgan Chip, because it features an iconic image.

Why can't there be room for aesthetics to drive prices?
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Makes no sense? How else do you explain the disparity between the Red Cobb and the Green Cobb other than one looks nicer than the other? How else do you explain the disparity between action poses and portraits other than the portraits are nicer looking cards? Why does the E-90 Cy Young card sell for so much money? You don't think it has anything to do with the image on the card?

My point is that aesthetics could be playing a larger role in collecting today whereas rarity or types could have been the motivating force behind past sales. I don't care about rarity anymore. I want NICE cards. I'm sure I'm not alone.
I absolutely agree about image. I'm just saying it can't, to me, explain price increases because the same cards always have been nice. What made no sense to me was your thesis that this was somehow a recent discovery.
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Old 01-18-2019, 11:41 AM
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I absolutely agree about image. I'm just saying it can't, to me, explain price increases because the same cards always have been nice.
But maybe they hadn't been collected for the aesthetic. That's my point. There could have been other motivating factors for why the prices were down. If you pay for rarity, then you weren't paying up for a T206 Johnson portrait in the past.
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