of course, eBay will do NOTHING about this...

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Posted By: Dan Mathewson 

...but I don't care. This is my complaint and I will keep sending them in ... at least they have to take the time to read them and reply, even though their reply will be lame.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1983577369


This is an issue which has been allowed on eBay for far too long. First and foremost, the seller continues to list items like this one in the sports trading cards and graded cards categories. eBay needs to disallow this from continuing. These items are not cards. This seller slabs these cut out pieces of magazine pages, pieces of newspaper, photos out of encyclopedias, TV Guide coupons, and other assorted trash, and they slab them in AAA-Grading holders to sell to people on eBay. It is a fraudulent and unethical practice. It floods the vintage card market with items which "appear to be professionally graded", and to the unknowing novice collector, they may appear to be authentic, valuable cards. They are not. This seller is in "cahoots" with seller "libertyforall" (Roy Huff) who has answered the telephone at the AAA offices in Hawaii. Huff also lives a couple blocks away from the AAA-Grading address which is posted on the AAA site. This is a nothing but a huge, huge scam. It hurts the vintage card market because beginners and novice collectors get scammed/burned by these guys, and some will lose trust, and possibly lose interest in the hobby. These guys slab worthless materials in lucite holders and try to sell them on eBay, using YOUR SITE to scam money from people all over the Net. It's bad enough that eBay allows this sort of practice to flourish...I don't care if it is "arguably legal", it is grossly unethical. A lot of things are "legal" that don't need to occur on eBay just because they are "legal". Bottom line: it is misrepresentation and basically fraudulent for these people to list this worthless rubbish under any categories which specify sports CARDS, trading CARDS or graded CARDS. They are not Cards.

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Posted By: kyle lentine

Dan
I agree this is a really crappy way to do business. I dont know what it worse, selling magazine cut outs as authentic cards or just flat out selling fake or counterfit cards as authentic. Ultimately it is the same outcome. They are trying to profit off of misleading and deceptive items.

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Posted By: jay behrens

Dan, can you provide the link where you report this. I cannot find anything. The closest I have some is finding a link that you are supposed to click to report inappropriate listings, but it just takes to their pages that lists items that cannot belisted on eBay.

I am alll for flooding eBay with complaints about these guys, but I can't do it without a link. It's almost as if they don't want you find this link to report these guys.

Jay

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Posted By: Dan Mathewson

...to find their "rules and safety" complaint area. Here is the link that I use to file a complaint and hopefully elicit an investigation.

Maybe (just maybe) if eBay hears from enough of us, they'll pull Roy's crutches right out from under him (and the rest of his lucite posse).

http://pages.ebay.com/help/basics/select-RS.html

If you actually click on this next link you'll see where "Safe Harbor" has essentailly been renamed Rules and Safety support. On this next link, you just click on "Investigations" and it'll take you to the area where you file a complaint and initiate an investigation.

http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/index.html


Everyone: Have a Merry and a Happy! It's been a fun year!

-dan