So lets have a little fun with all the negitivity in the hobby

[cardsnstuff]

Originally Posted by rats60

His question is confusing. Does he want the best players with Rcs in the decade or best player in the decade also with a rookie card in the decade?

I was looking for the best players of the decade, whose rc was also in that decade. And I did change to 5 players per decade and per sport

Someone brought up Reggie Jackson, I could see why u want to list him as a 70's contender, his rookie was 1969, But does he make the top 5 of 60's players, whose rc was in the 60's? actually, maybe. It doesn't matter when their career ended.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by cardsnstuff

I was looking for the best players of the decade, whose rc was also in that decade. And I did change to 5 players per decade and per sport

Someone brought up Reggie Jackson, I could see why u want to list him as a 70's contender, his rookie was 1969, But does he make the top 5 of 60's players, whose rc was in the 60's? actually, maybe. It doesn't matter when their career ended.

Then that pretty much eliminates anyone who didn't have a RC the first couple years of the decade.

50s Mays, Mantle, Mathews, Ford, Minoso
60s Yaz, McCovey, Santo, Marichal, Billy Williams
70s Munson, Blyleven, Schmidt, Grich, Cedeno
80s Henderson, Raines, Ripken, Sandberg, Boggs
90s Thomas, Bagwell, Pedro.Martinez, Walker, Loften
00s Pujols, Ichiro, Utley, Johan Santana, Roy Oswalt

[Peter_Spaeth]

By those criteria, Chipper Jones and Miguel Cabrera should be on your list.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

By those criteria, Chipper Jones and Miguel Cabrera should be on your list.

Cabrera didn't make the majors until 2003 and that was a partial season. Chipper's first season was 1995. Neither produced enough to make the top 5. I'm really not sure the point of this, but they would be top 20 players of the decade with Rcs in that decade. It took enough work to get the top 5, someone else can go deeper if they like.

If we want a true top 100 list, take the top 20 rookie cards per decade and count the player's whole career. Many of those guys who are top 5 only counting the years of the decade, wouldn't even make a top 20 list. For basketball, Bill Russell just missed the 50s list because he doesn't have enough time and Jabbar only gets one year, no chance at making it. For baseball, guys like Bob Gibson, Reggie Jackson and Ken Griffey Jr only get one year, so again no chance. For the OP, Carew, Bonds and Peyton Manning, not enough time to make the list. Brown and Walter Payton would be close, probably not top 5, but top 20.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by rats60

Cabrera did make the majors in 2003 and that was a partial season. Chipper's first season was 1995. Neither produced enough to make the top 5. I'm really not sure the point of this, but they would be top 20 players of the decade with Rcs in that decade, but to go more than 5 took enough work, someone else can go deeper if they like.

I interpret it to mean the top five RCs of the decade but agree with you it's not clear.

[cardsnstuff]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I interpret it to mean the top five RCs of the decade but agree with you it's not clear.

I guess I was trying to come up with my own list of my own top 100; perhaps 15-20 per decade per sport. My wife says I need to improve my communication skills so anyone that can reword for me, I appreciate it. But I thought as us collectors would have much more insight.

[hysell]

The { BIG } problem is , this point ! A lot of these players have there ROOKIES in a decade & didn't play /played vary little in that decade ? SO, with that said , MOST of there stats are in the FOLLOWING decade ?????

[nat]

I'm going to play by my own rules.

Greatest player with a rookie card in the corresponding decade:

1950s: Willie Mays. At their respective peaks Mantle was comparable, but Mays kept it up much longer.

1960s: Johnny Bench. This pick makes me wonder if I'm forgetting someone. He was great and all, but it sure is a drop-off from the 50s.

1970s: Mike Schmidt. The greatest third baseman of all time.

1980s: Barry Bonds. Second only to Ruth.

1990s: Alex Rodriguez.

2000s: Albert Pujols.

2010s: Mike Trout. This one is way early - who knows what Juan Soto will end up doing - but I'm still comfortable with it. There are two things that make Trout so astoundingly great: he was great extremely young, and he's extremely consistent. Think about this: excepting his cup of coffee in 2011, the year in which he had his WORST on-base percentage he also won the MVP award. By WAR the year in which he had his second-lowest score he won an MVP award. And his third lowest. He's an MVP-caliber player even when he's not playing well (by his standards).

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I interpret it to mean the top five RCs of the decade but agree with you it's not clear.

That is why I asked and was told "I was looking for the best players of the decade, whose rc was also in that decade." Now it seems like he is wanting top 5 players whose RC is in the decade. So, a different list.

50s Mays, Mantle, Aaron, Clemente, Koufax
60s Yaz, Rose, Morgan, Seaver, Bench
70s Schmidt, Brett, Yount, Molitor, Ozzie Smith
80s Henderson, Ripken, Boggs, Maddux, Griffey
90s Frank Thomas, Chipper Jones, Pedro Martinez, Bagwell, Beltre
00s Cabrera, Pujols, Ichiro, Kershaw, Trout

I am excluding known steroid users so Bonds, Arod and Clemens are disqualified. I have seen nothing but rumors about Bagwell, so he is on my list. I go by the original definition for RC, so the 2009 Bowman Chrome Trout is his RC, not the rookie logo card.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I would rate Gibson over Koufax.
I think I would rate Murray over Molitor who never did much for me.
I would take The Big Unit over Boggs.

[cardsnstuff]

Originally Posted by rats60

That is why I asked and was told "I was looking for the best players of the decade, whose rc was also in that decade." Now it seems like he is wanting top 5 players whose RC is in the decade. So, a different list.

50s Mays, Mantle, Aaron, Clemente, Koufax
60s Yaz, Rose, Morgan, Seaver, Bench
70s Schmidt, Brett, Yount, Molitor, Ozzie Smith
80s Henderson, Ripken, Boggs, Maddux, Griffey
90s Frank Thomas, Chipper Jones, Pedro Martinez, Bagwell, Thome
00s Cabrera, Pujols, Ichiro, Kershaw, Trout

I am excluding known steroid users so Bonds, Arod and Clemens are disqualified. I have seen nothing but rumors about Bagwell, so he is on my list. I go by the original definition for RC, so the 2009 Bowman Chrome Trout is his RC, not the rookie logo card.

I like the above, very good choices. The reason I switched to top 5; is I thought it was to hard to name just 1 player in any given decade. It would be interesting to see overall top 5 per decade if I threw the rc rule. I just thought made it tougher.

[rats60]

Basketball
50s Pettit, Cousy, Sharman, Schayes, Arizin
60s Chamberlain, West, Big O, Baylor, Havlicek
70s Dr J, Maravich, Archibald, Barry, Cowens
80s Magic, Bird, Thomas, Jordan, Olajuwon
90s Shaq, Payton, Hill, Tim Hardaway, Mourning
00s LeBron, Wade, Anthony, Ming, Howard

or if counting player's whole career

50s Russell, Pettit, Cousy, Schayes, Arizin
60s Chamberlain, West, Big O, Baylor, Jabbar
70s Dr J, Barry, Archibald, Moses Malone, Gervin
80s Magic, Bird, Jordan, Olajuwon, David Robinson
90s Shaq, Garnett, Kobe, Duncan, Nowitzki
00s LeBron, Wade, Durant, Curry, Harden