Conlon Photo Need Some Help

[btcarfagno]

This was in the Conlon photo lot that I won at the Christie's auction. My question is if the back stampings show this to be a Type 1 or if I will have to have it in hand before I am able to make any sort of determination on it.

Is there a way to determine type simply by these images?





Earliest date stamp on the back is April 1927.

[bobfreedman]

I am no expert but the stamp is usually a very good indication that it is a Type 1, without the stamp, you will need to have it in hand before making a call.

[btcarfagno]

Originally Posted by bobfreedman

I am no expert but the stamp is usually a very good indication that it is a Type 1, without the stamp, you will need to have it in hand before making a call.

Thank you Bob!!

A concern I have is that it could be a vintage 2 or vintage 3. How does one tell the difference? Is it date stamp versus image content?

[bobfreedman]

Yes, based on the date of when the photo was taken and when the photo was produced. You can determine some of this based on the back as well as the content of the photo itself.

For example, you will see "The Babe Bows Out" photo all the time however, a type one is defined as being produced within 2 years of when the actual photo was taken. Several photos of this famous shot were produced afterwards and are a fraction of the price and this is based in part by the date on the reverse and the type of paper used etc. becasue we know exactly when this photo was taken. Others are more difficult of course but what Henry Yee does is amazing. The research etc. are incredible.

There is a great book out that explains a lot of what your concerns are named "A Portrait of Baseball Photography" by Fogel, Yee and Oser. I would get it

[btcarfagno]

I think I will get it. Thanks for the heads up.

I am thinking this may be a vintage 2 or 3 in that case. Earliest back stamp is 1927 but uniform style dictates photo taken between 15-20 years before that.

Conlon handwriting on the back has an encircled 1907, but I wonder if that may just be referencing when the photo was first taken? This is confusing!

[btcarfagno]

There are also Conlon images where he wrote a date that are listed at RMY as type 1 so now I am really really confused. Maybe the photo stock will tell a story?

[TCMA]

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