Another Philly Show....another group of T205 DRUM's

[tedzan]

Hanging next to Ron Oser (Lengendary Auctions) is always a hoot. Our booths are adjacent at the Philly show. I have
known Ron since 1980 when I met him at the Montclair State College (NJ) BB card show. We have grown old together
in this hobby.

Friday nite at the Philly show a guy walked in with an eclectic group of 400+ T-cards. He walked it around and ended
up at Ron's booth. Ron and I sorted through all of these cards and Ron bought them. The majority of the cards in this
collection consist of an assortment of 375 T205's, T206's and OBAK's. Additionally, the star cards are......

T205 and T206 Cobb (red)

18 - T205 and T206 HOFer's

T206 DRUM's (Pfeister and Rucker)

and the following T205 DRUM's......

Austin
Chase
Knight
Lord
Olmstead
Payne
Quinn


Furthermore, two great pitchers were signing at the show......

Bob Feller is 91 years old and very robust looking for his age. It would not surprise me if he can still go to the mound
and pitch a few innings.

Jim Bunning is 77, and looks good enough to pitch his 3rd no-hitter. Bunning signed for 160 fans (the highest number
of signings for the weekend, and twice that of Ripken).

While, no one would dare compare Bunning with Feller, their numbers are astonishingly close......17-18 year careers,
3.25 ERA's. Bunning's W-L is 224-184 while Feller's W-L is 266-162. However, Bunning has a considerable edge in the
K's/BB stat with 2855/1000 to Feller's 2581/1764.


TED Z

[mets41]

Ted--

what's with your fascination with that known criminal jim bunning (the dishonorable senator from KY)?

[Bobsbats]

Whats wrong with Jim Bunning? Just because he doesn't want OUR hard earned money going to extend peoples unemployment benefits....? I should hope all of those Senators would go over how our tax money is spent as well as Bunning. If you keep extending unemployment....people will keep what they are doing .....sitting back collecting the governments ( my portion ) money..

[chaddurbin]

i see jim bunning's still running that autograph scam...bleh

[jlynch1960]

Originally Posted by Bobsbats

people will keep what they are doing .....sitting back collecting the governments ( my portion ) money..

It's not really your money their collecting - it's your childrens' money and your grandchildrens' money. Oh, and a pretty good chunk of it comes of late from the Chinese and Arabs as well.

BTW, back on track. My ancient mother was a school kid in Cleveland in the late 40's - she can still recite the team by position. She never made it to a series game, but they used to let them listen at school on the radio. I think Feller still lives in a little town called Gates Mills, Ohio.

[Rich Klein]

He posted NOTHING about political views in this thread about Senator Bunning. The only thing he posted were:
How many signatures and career records, nothing wrong with that.

I suggest we drop the political issue immediately.

If you wish to discuss whether Bunning was a better pitcher than Luis Tiant or Mickey Lolich or Wes Ferrell (to name a few and include a Pre-War pitcher) now go ahead and discuss.

Regards
Rich

Who gives a crap about politics. Where the hell are those T205's. I want some of them. Is there a way to get scans?? or a list for sale????

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

i see jim bunning's still running that autograph scam...bleh

What scam is that? Just curious what this means.

[Leon]

Lets please don't get into politics. IF ya'll must you can start a thread over in the watercooler talk section and hash it out. There won't be any groundbreaking ideas or ideologies. I have my political views just like everyone else. This isn't the place for them though. I think Richard S's question is legit though. A question about Bunning running an autograph scam is board-worthy. Would like to hear more about it...

[Wite3]

Back to the cards...
If you are keeping score...

The Austin, Knight, and Quinn are already known Drum backs.
The Olmstead and Payne are new to me.

Leon, do you remember which Chase and which Lord were the Drum backs?

Can we expect to see these in the next BL auction? (Please?)

Joshua

[tedzan]

Hey guys, whose making this "political" ?
Not me ? ?

Jim Bunning is a really nice guy to talk with, as I have had on several occasions over the years. With the exception of 1961
and 1964, Bunning pitched on mediocre teams for most of his 17 years. He would have won 300 games if he had he been on
1st class teams. His control was amazing . You have to appreciate his 3 to 1 ratio of strikeouts to walks, as it ranks as one
of the best in Baseball. And, don't forget that Bunning pitched No-hitters in both Leagues. This feat still stands as a record
unequalled in the Major Leagues.
Anyhow, he was very popular with the attendees at the Philly Show this weekend.

In 2 separate finds within a year, Legendary Auctions has discovered a total of 15-T205 DRUM"S. This is more T205 DRUM's
than have been seen in the past 15 years. I expect that the seven T205 DRUM's that I have listed here will be offered in Le-
gendary's late Spring auction.

Twenty (or so) Net54er's dropped by to chat with Jim Rivera and me at our booth this weekend. The attendance on Friday
and Sat. appeared less than usual, as a hurricane force Northeaster caused lot's of problems in the area all weekend.


TED Z

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Wite3

Back to the cards...
If you are keeping score...

The Austin, Knight, and Quinn are already known Drum backs.
The Olmstead and Payne are new to me.

Leon, do you remember which Chase and which Lord were the Drum backs?

Can we expect to see these in the next BL auction? (Please?)

Joshua

Hi Joshua
It wasn't Scott or I that got the Drum back T205's. It sounds like it was Ron Oser, who is with Legendary. I have had a T205 Drum for quite some time and got him in a trade. But that's on the personal collection side. I don't think we have ever had a Drum T205 in one of our auctions. regards

[Mikehealer]

Hi Ted
I'm pretty sure Nolan Ryan pitched no-hitters in both leagues also (AL-Angels&Rangers; NL-Astros).

[Rob D.]

Originally Posted by Mikehealer

Hi Ted
I'm pretty sure Nolan Ryan pitched no-hitters in both leagues also (AL-Angels&Rangers; NL-Astros).

So did Cy Young, Randy Johnson and Hideo Nomo.

For anyone who's interested, best strikeout-to-walk ratios for a career:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...s_career.shtml

[tedzan]

Thanks for posting all those stats on the K's/BB ratio....great stuff.

Bunning's was the 1st pitcher in the modern era (20th Century) to pitch No-Hitters in both Leagues.
And, his Perfect game vs the Mets (Father's Day 1964) was the 1st perfect game in 84 years in the
National Lge. John Richmond pitched a Perfect game back in June 1880.

I forgot about Randy Johnson and Hideo Nomo.....but, they just aint your "vintage dudes"


TED Z

[tedzan]

Regarding your........

"If you are keeping score...
The Austin, Knight, and Quinn are already known Drum backs.
The Olmstead and Payne are new to me.

Leon, do you remember which Chase and which Lord were the Drum backs?

Can we expect to see these in the next BL auction? (Please?)
Joshua"



Go back to Post #1 on this thread....I was the one who checked-out the T205 DRUM's at the Philly Show.
So, for your benefit, I will reprise my listing and provide you more info.

Austin.........NY (AL)
Chase.........NY (AL)....front facial pose
Knight.........NY (AL)
Lord............Phila. (AL)
Olmstead.....Chicago (AL)
Payne.........Chicago (AL)
Quinn..........NY (AL)

Regards,

T-Rex TED

[Vintagecatcher]

Hi Ted,

Which year or years were the Obaks that Ron purchased?

Thanks,

Patrick

[tedzan]

Most of the OBAK's were from the 1910 175 Subjects series. There are about 30 - 35 cards in this group.


TED Z

[drdduet]

Sounds like a nice grouping.

[tedzan]

Darren

It isn't often anymore that you personally get a chance to check-out a 400+ collection of T-cards that "walked-in" to a BB card show.

I yearn for the days (prior to ebay and all these myriad number of auctions) when people walked-in to shows with boxes full of vintage
sportscards. When they came to my table, I'd give them a fair assessment of their collection and tell them to walk their cards around
to other dealers and get the best price for them.

Many times they would return back to my table and we would agree to a deal. After such occasions, I'd wonder......what in the world
are these other dealers thinking ?
Anyhow, I could fill pages here on many of my experiences. Especially, at the Willow Grove Shows in the 1980's and the Cooperstown
Shows in the '80s and '90s.


TED Z

[jbsports33]

Ted,

great stuff, even if you did not buy the cards, it’s great you shared the story. There is not as much stuff coming into the shows anymore, but still enough to keep it interesting.

Thanks Jimmy

[Vintagecatcher]

Ted,

Thanks for the response. Hopefully these Obaks will become available. I'm tired of seeing the same ones over and over on eBay for the last few years.

Patrick

[tedzan]

My understanding is that all 400+ cards will be offered in their forthcoming auction (some time in May).


TED Z

[ethicsprof]

Ted,
great to hear of the 400+.
these stories are the best of vintage!!
it's great to hear that these treasures are still around.
for these moments, we ole dinosaurs get to be kids again.

all the best, ole friend
barry