show me 19th century cards..

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Posted By: scott

lately i'm slowly being tempted to take the plunge into 19th century material.this will make my checkbook very unhappy.motivate me by showing me some of the highlights of what you have and for my own education,a little background of why its a favorite.

thanks,
scott

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Posted By: leon

They are Brownie Champs, cool portraits, and extremely rare. As a matter of fact, so far, I can't find anyone that has seen another of these Commisky's (sic). I would imagine there are more but no one I have spoken with has seen a different example? I did see this particular one in a Mastro auction in '98 and they said it was the one used in reference guides, at the time, for the sample card from the set. I got it about 4 yrs ago, or so, from a SportsCardsPlus auction. Thanks to Andy B for giving me the heads up.......regards

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Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)

Scott,

If you're going for the run of the mill cards (N28, N29, N162, N172 and N300) then things aren't so bad. Try finding a GnB, Yum Yum or Lone Jack - then try not to gasp when you see the price of a common...

Leon, special request... I know you've posted this many times but I haven't seen it for a while...

4BH Kelly

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Posted By: david

two of my favorites

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Posted By: Keith O'Leary

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Posted By: leon

I try not to post him too often as some folks get a little tired of my boasting....but hey....I still think it's one of the best 19th century cards in the hobby.....regards

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Posted By: Daniel Bretta

My skinned N172 Brouthers that my dad gave me back in the early 80's.

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Posted By: Rich Jacobs

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Posted By: Julie Vognar

It's called "The Goodwin Round Album" 1889




N162s, 1888, are considered by some t be the most beautiful cards; they are much less rare than many others:

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Posted By: joe brennan

Ok, So you converted me from collecting 1960's cards to 1909 cards. Now, you are teasing me into 19th century. I think its 1 big conspiracy. How come when I see all these beauties I feel like a kid in a candy store with a nickle in my pocket and everything cost a dime? All I can do is put my nose to the glass and drool.
OK, so I did purchase my first 2 19th century cards this week. (thanks Leon)
Its a conspiracy I tell you!!!

"I had the right to remain silent. I just didn't have the ability" Ron White

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Posted By: Andy Baran

Here are my 2 Favorites. The scan is not to scale.

I like the Ewing because he was thought by many of his contemporaries to be the best 19th Century player of them all. This is from 1886, and there are no "cards" of Ewing from any earlier years.

I like the Burkett for many reasons. As of today, it is still one of a kind. It's Burkett's earliest known card, and it predates his popular T204 by 16 years!

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Posted By: Joe G.

<edited to remove my Ewing comment>
. . . and added a pair of pics to keep the thread going.



Joe Gonsowski

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Posted By: Jimi

but I love the N28s and you gotta admit that nice looking ones are beautiful! Sorry, but I can't get them smaller.







Jimi

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Posted By: Daniel Bretta

Not a card, but a photo of 19th Century Hall of Famer Sam Thompson at Briggs Field in Detroit around 1906.

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Posted By: Andy Baran

If you ever sell the Lone Jack, you can return the favor by selling it to me at cost.

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Posted By: identify7

Scott:

The cards and memorabilia are only (to many) a small part of the attraction of 19th century collecting. The reading, research, discoveries and understanding of what transpired during this era is what really attracts me (well the cards ain't bad either).

For example, from a historical perspective a collector can focus on lesser known, non-superstars from this period, who made significant and lesser contributions to the colorful history during the (later) formative years of baseball.

Typical of these players is the fellow with the lowest and highest season BA in history; the pitchers with the most wins, losses, combined decisions, highest BA, lowest ERA, most Ks, etc. The greatest slugging team until the 1927 Yankees, and the worst - with zero HRs for the season - is the same team. A player with 4 triples in a game, a triple crown winner who also was highest in doubles and triples, the list is endless. The reason for, and the players involved in the Union Association, Players League, the Resereve Clause, hippodroming, revolving, high or low pitches, constantly changing number of balls for a walk, warnings about not swinging at good pitches, Ooops - Gil - you are losing it a bit here - let me reel you back in.

Sorry, Im back. Whew - it is dangerous in there - you could get lost. You better stay away Scott.

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Posted By: Kevin Cummings

Also not technically a card, but rather a Warren Studio CDV of Cal McVey.

McVey was a member of the 1869 Cincinnati Red Stockings (the first all-professional team) and a star of the early professional game. He was an excellent hitter and versatile enough to play every field position well.

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Posted By: Tom Boblitt

Cal's better hair days.........
Looks like an anvil kind of fell at an angle on his head.....

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Posted By: Kevin Cummings

Cal's may be bad, but it's still not as bad as this "hair don't":

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Posted By: Tom Boblitt

Wolverine from the X-Men movies (Hugh Jackman)........
Toss in a Rollie Fingers-like 'stache and he'd be gettin all the ladies....

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Posted By: Rob

I still don't have this graded. But then again, I thought I'd never even own one....