NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-17-2015, 09:17 AM
gs1968 gs1968 is offline
member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 6
Default Same mistake

Have bought from this seller many times most cards are 2 grades below description and bid accordingly. Just bought t206 hummel listed as nearmint got card full 1/16 inch short top to bottom returned item 4 days after sellers receipt of card still no refund but card relisted as you guessed it...near mint.no more for me I am done too many sellers out there.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-17-2015, 11:31 AM
bobbyw8469's Avatar
bobbyw8469 bobbyw8469 is offline
Robert Williams
member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 9,051
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gs1968 View Post
Have bought from this seller many times most cards are 2 grades below description and bid accordingly. Just bought t206 hummel listed as nearmint got card full 1/16 inch short top to bottom returned item 4 days after sellers receipt of card still no refund but card relisted as you guessed it...near mint.no more for me I am done too many sellers out there.
They have been doing this for years. They prey on people hoping they hit a 'raw' card gold mine with their awesome looking vintage, ungraded cards. I believe they crack out mid grade cards that look nice for the grade for some of their wares. I also believe they crack out SGC "A" cards that look fantastic and sell them as raw, unaltered cards. They seem to have no shortage of buyers, and they are sitting on an Ebay gold mine, ethics be damned.

Last edited by bobbyw8469; 10-17-2015 at 11:31 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-17-2015, 04:02 PM
pokerplyr80's Avatar
pokerplyr80 pokerplyr80 is offline
je.sse @rnot
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: California
Posts: 3,914
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 View Post
They have been doing this for years. They prey on people hoping they hit a 'raw' card gold mine with their awesome looking vintage, ungraded cards. I believe they crack out mid grade cards that look nice for the grade for some of their wares. I also believe they crack out SGC "A" cards that look fantastic and sell them as raw, unaltered cards. They seem to have no shortage of buyers, and they are sitting on an Ebay gold mine, ethics be damned.
That pretty much sums it up. They don't ask any questions about returns since they know the cards are altered. The one card I purchased was relisted before I had even gotten it back from PSA. With the same description of NM card, guaranteed authentic and unaltered.

I'm no lawyer, but shouldn't it be a crime to sell a $1,000 + card you know is altered yet insist it not? Or any card for that matter?
__________________
Successful transactions with peter spaeth, don's cards, vwtdi, wolf441, 111gecko, Clydewally, Jim, SPMIDD, MattyC, jmb, botn, E107collector, begsu1013, and a few others.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-16-2016, 08:41 PM
Zact Zact is offline
Chr$stopher Pett$
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 611
Default

Bump
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-16-2016, 08:43 PM
1952boyntoncollector 1952boyntoncollector is offline
ja.ke liebe.rman
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/mysetregistry/set/348387
Posts: 5,743
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 View Post
That pretty much sums it up. They don't ask any questions about returns since they know the cards are altered. The one card I purchased was relisted before I had even gotten it back from PSA. With the same description of NM card, guaranteed authentic and unaltered.

I'm no lawyer, but shouldn't it be a crime to sell a $1,000 + card you know is altered yet insist it not? Or any card for that matter?
Just imagine if there were no grading companies how many times a card would be returned on a high dollar card on a dispute on the term 'near mint'
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-21-2016, 12:11 AM
Luke's Avatar
Luke Luke is offline
Luke Lyon
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Seattle
Posts: 3,966
Default

So, she just won the trimmed Old Mill Cy Young from PWCC, popped it out, photo-shopped it, and re-listed:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T206...oAAOSwPCVX7~Yt

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CY-YOUNG-GLO...sAAOSwn7JYCaXg
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-21-2016, 04:14 AM
PhillipAbbott79 PhillipAbbott79 is offline
Phillip Abbott
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 414
Default

I am not sure I see a photo shop job, but I definitely think removing it from the holder where it was clearly labeled as altered and not disclosing that is a really shitty move.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-21-2016, 04:30 AM
tiger8mush's Avatar
tiger8mush tiger8mush is offline
Rob G.
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 2,036
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79 View Post
I am not sure I see a photo shop job, but I definitely think removing it from the holder where it was clearly labeled as altered and not disclosing that is a really shitty move.
They didn't just hide that fact. They explicitly lie, saying its unaltered ...
"Up for auction is a 1909-11 T206 Cy Young (Glove Shows) #525 vintage baseball card. This card has an Old Mill Back. This card is in wonderful condition! It is 100% authentic and unaltered! ..."
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-21-2016, 04:43 AM
bobbyw8469's Avatar
bobbyw8469 bobbyw8469 is offline
Robert Williams
member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 9,051
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79 View Post
I am not sure I see a photo shop job, but I definitely think removing it from the holder where it was clearly labeled as altered and not disclosing that is a really shitty move.
That's what brings the bucks. Money has no ethics. Battlefield has been doing this for years. That is why I'm always so leery about selling my own personal SGC "A" cards on Ebay.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-21-2016, 07:21 AM
tschock tschock is offline
T@yl0r $ch0ck
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: NC
Posts: 1,391
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79 View Post
I am not sure I see a photo shop job, but I definitely think removing it from the holder where it was clearly labeled as altered and not disclosing that is a really shitty move.
I don't see the black marks under "Assortment" nor the red mark left of "Cigarettes" (outside the frame) on battlefield's scan as I do on the original PWCC one.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 10-22-2016, 07:19 AM
Leon's Avatar
Leon Leon is online now
Leon
peasant/forum owner
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: near Dallas
Posts: 34,450
Default

I am going to see if I can get the authorities interested in this one. It's just wrong....

Quote:
Originally Posted by LukeLyon View Post
So, she just won the trimmed Old Mill Cy Young from PWCC, popped it out, photo-shopped it, and re-listed:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T206...oAAOSwPCVX7~Yt

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CY-YOUNG-GLO...sAAOSwn7JYCaXg
__________________
Leon Luckey
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 10-22-2016, 07:43 AM
Bretsky's Avatar
Bretsky Bretsky is offline
Bret
member
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Plainfield
Posts: 111
Default

How is this person still allowed to sell on Ebay? I remember being scammed by him or her a year ago on a high end 55 All American card that was definitely not in the picture.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-23-2016, 11:08 PM
Pat R's Avatar
Pat R Pat R is offline
P@trick R.omolo
member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 3,337
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LukeLyon View Post
So, she just won the trimmed Old Mill Cy Young from PWCC, popped it out, photo-shopped it, and re-listed:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T206...oAAOSwPCVX7~Yt

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CY-YOUNG-GLO...sAAOSwn7JYCaXg
Well it looks like the buyer sent it back and now it's re-listed again.http://www.ebay.com/itm/CY-YOUNG-GLO...AAAOSwo4pYNn5A
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-24-2016, 03:26 AM
1952boyntoncollector 1952boyntoncollector is offline
ja.ke liebe.rman
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/mysetregistry/set/348387
Posts: 5,743
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat R View Post
Well it looks like the buyer sent it back and now it's re-listed again.http://www.ebay.com/itm/CY-YOUNG-GLO...AAAOSwo4pYNn5A
the collecting world for that type of card is pretty small and you would think everyone already has seen that card by now. I not sure why people just dont bid a psa 1/authentic raw price on it especially when seeing the negative ebay comments.

It is fun to see some of the 'shocked' buyer comments who think they bought a legit $1000 or whatever card and believe they are getting a card worth 1000s more....

Negative feedback rating CARD IMAGE WAS ALTERED, IGNORED EMAILS, TOOK 2 WEEKS FOR REFUND, STAY AWAY!!!!!! Buyer: t***y ( 1162Red star icon for feedback score in between 1,000 to 4,999)
During past 6 months Feedback conversation


Reply by battlefield0516 (Aug-21-16 19:20):
You & others spreading these lies can expect a slander lawsuit to be filed soon!

SANDY KOUFAX 1955 TOPPS #123 - RC - DODGERS - NRMINT-MINT+ BREATHTAKING!!! (#142067923901)



Looking forward to that slander lawsuit..


I guess love is a battlefield.

Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 11-24-2016 at 03:43 AM.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
T206, W512 & Topps T206 Closing Soon on eBay t206blogcom Ebay, Auction and other Venues Announcement- B/S/T 0 12-11-2011 03:42 PM
4 T206 lots, T206 Speaker and 67 Red Sox Sticker on Ebay Archive Ebay, Auction and other Venues Announcement- B/S/T 0 02-11-2008 09:07 PM
T206 PSA on eBay $.99 Archive Ebay, Auction and other Venues Announcement- B/S/T 0 01-03-2008 09:09 AM
On Ebay: T206 Blackburne Old Mill, T206 Schulte back view, T206 Doolin/Doolan, T207 Street Archive Ebay, Auction and other Venues Announcement- B/S/T 0 03-04-2007 09:07 AM
T206 PSA 6's and 7's on EBAY Archive Ebay, Auction and other Venues Announcement- B/S/T 0 06-26-2006 10:09 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:41 AM.


ebay GSB