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Old 06-04-2008, 10:56 AM
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Posted By: Bryan Long

A request to fellow board members: Please take me off any mailing list that you may have. I am getting a few e-mails from board members that have nothing to do with baseball cards. I have no interest in buying computers, IPODs or televisions.
While I realize that this forum is a great place to get active e-mails for this type of thing, I would appreciate it if I was not apart of any mass mailings.
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:02 AM
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Posted By: Mark T

same thing just happened to me!!!

my spam filter did not detect it as spam. I think the same person who posted here a few months ago must have done this. Remember when he post cell phones for sale.

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Old 06-04-2008, 11:07 AM
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Posted By: Sean BH

Mark,
I just received an e-mail (to both my e-mails) from you about 30 minutes ago about some computer stuff, and also one from John Wondowski last night.

I'm not sure, but you might want to run a virus scan or spyware program.

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Posted By: Dave F

I got it too. Looks like it went through Mark's email...he was listed as the sender.

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Posted By: Matt

I got it as well; I also got one from Wonka a few days back.
Either someone has a virus in their Outlook inbox or someone scraped our email addresses off of the board.

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That's one thing I really don't like about the N54 messageboards. Other messageboard programs allow you to be contacted either by PM or even e-mail, without having to disclose your e-mail address directly with each post. I'm surprised this type of thing doesn't happen more to be honest.

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Posted By: Mark T

I would never send that stuff to you guys so it must be using addresses to bounce around.

I knew it was spam/junk so i deleted before opening.

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Posted By: Kyle

I got it too, but I think it could have been a spam email, "virus" email or a hacked email email. I don't think it was legitimately from the sender.

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Old 06-04-2008, 11:14 AM
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Posted By: Sean BH

But Mark, I will take 2 iPods (8gb touch) if you still have availability? Also what kind of GPS systems do you have?

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Old 06-04-2008, 11:15 AM
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Posted By: Mark T

of 5 spams...


I think a few came from Bobby B. (VCP.com)...but i could read a little bit of the email and knew he would not send this stuff.

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Old 06-04-2008, 11:16 AM
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Posted By: Mark T

i own a GPS but don't have an ipod, my kids would destroy it!!!

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Old 06-04-2008, 11:31 AM
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Posted By: leon

I think this spam, which I have gotten several of, came from a collector named "jacsports". At least that is what he said in an email he sent out....He is working on it....

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Old 06-04-2008, 11:34 AM
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Posted By: Al C.risafulli

Ah, it's invaded the hobby. It seems like it's re-sending itself to everyone in the inbox of whoever opens it. So don't open it, or it will just keep sending over and over.

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Old 06-04-2008, 11:41 AM
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Posted By: john wondowski

Sorry, folks. My laptop got hit with a spambot and sent out of few hundred wacko emails. Gonna be a fun next couple of days.

Once again, the stuff that came from me was virus related spam - my apologies!

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Old 06-04-2008, 11:42 AM
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Posted By: Red

It's very likely that the name displayed in the from section has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the sending of the spam email. It’s just plugged in there by the spam program that’s working from an email list that everybody who's getting them is on.

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Old 06-04-2008, 11:49 AM
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Posted By: Mark T

Ran spybot and virus detector and seems like it was just a Email spam mass sending.


still, i would suggest everyone who got these run their virus scan.

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Posted By: Peter Thomas

I guess I got the same email a few minutes ago it appears to have gone thru Scott B's email address, so I guess it will be going around. I think it is purged from my office email - need to check home.

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Posted By: Jason L

a couple of emails from me worth reading today
please let me know if you got them
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Posted By: Eric

I got it as well, from Mark. I hope it doesn't send it through all my contacts. If it does, I appologize in advance.

At least I kept it off my home computer. Opened it at work.

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Posted By: Matt

Just to quiet down the "scare" a little, neither the email sent today that looks like it came from Mark or the one a few days ago that had John W as the sender have anything in them that could infect your inbox and send mail to your contacts. They are benign emails in that sense.

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Posted By: Eric

Good to know. Thanks Matt.

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Posted By: Bryan Long

I appreciate the feedback and I apologize as I didn't want to point fingers at anyone.
Thanks.

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Posted By: Mark T

if it was from me...not intended.


sorry Eric...i got your return email but i did not want to open yours. At least you know whats going on.

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Old 06-04-2008, 01:20 PM
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Posted By: Jason

This is strange. Everyone on my contact list in gmail got blasted with an IPOD offer from me. Since it was web based email I knew it wasn't a virus but ran the scans anyways. Since that one email that "I" sent out. Gmail's contact list stopped working and when it returned my contacts were gone.

Odd stuff.

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Posted By: scott levy

I've got a few cellphones for sale...mostly from the early 1990s. They kinda look like that mobile phone in the movie "Wall Street" -- kidding (but I really do have them in the basement).

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Posted By: Bryan Long

Mark T.
No apology needed, as now I know nothing was intentional. A computer whiz can their way around anything nowadays.

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Posted By: Sean BH

So no one has iPods for sale? My kids will be upset with me.

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Posted By: Frank B


It's a virus. I've seen this one before.

Mine came from stick50@xxxxx and had a big distribution list.
My virus program detected one other as well that was blocked.

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I've received three of these so far. The thing that sucks is that these are coming from people who I correspond with pretty often anyway so my natural reaction is to open them. Mark, the first came from you. Brian Campf, the second from you and the third came from someone at frank741@aol.com. They also have odd subject lines such as "RE:Saturday" or "Please read quietly"

Not sure if they are virus-laden emails or emails that simply generate more spam if people open them. If anyone gets one of these from me, please let me know.

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Posted By: Mark T

I did NOT open mine i got from board members because with Gmail you can see a line of what the email is about and i knew it was spam but did not realize it took my contacts and emailed them.

How it got my contacts without me opening them is a mystery to me but with the technology now anything is possible.

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Posted By: Brian McQueen


Just got a fourth....from Dan Paradis

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and you wont get them.

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Posted By: Matt

Here is a little bit more information.

The "virus" seems to infiltrate through MSN messenger and generates an email to everyone on your MSN contact list, then deletes your contacts.

It is unclear from what I have read how the virus is spread (it seems that it is not from these emails).
The infected account will show the SPAM email as being sent if you check the online sent box for that account. If you have such an infected account you should change your email password at once and disable MSN Messenger.

If all you did was receive the email, but there is no email in your sent box, then there is no need to change your password as you are not infected.

Again, it does not have anything to do with your Windows based email client if you use one.

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Posted By: Mark T

you are right...all but 4 off my contacts have been deleted!!!

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Posted By: john wondowski

Matt,

Mine apparantly was sent through my AOL account. I am not sure how that correlates with the Windows Messenger.

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Posted By: Matt

John - that's interesting. There have been a few dozen reports about it that I have seen and they all were Microsoft Messenger based. Do you have a chat client that runs on your computer? If so, it would be instructive to know what client it is and if your AOL email account is associated with it.

Messenger can run quietly and by default is set to start automatically when you start Windows so some people aren't even aware that they are logged in to MSN.

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Posted By: john wondowski

Matt,

I confess that I must plead ignorance. The techs are attempting to clean my machine as we speak and I will try to get some answers from them. I just know that the address used was my AOL address and many of my AOL contacts were deleted. I had not installed messenger as far as i know. What a pain in the ass. I will try to get more info.

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Posted By: Matt

John - I believe due to the relationship between AOL and Microsoft, you can run Messenger associated with an AOL account. That might explain your situation.

I'm still puzzled as to how the thing spreads though. Let us know what the techs find as I haven't come across any concrete description of what it is or what it does, other then what I posted above.

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Posted By: john wondowski

Just went upstairs for the update. Cannot find the actual virus or origination of the infestation. Lots of ad/spyware that wasn't there earlier, but nothing to clean that references the problem. I hate this stuff.

We are gonna wipe the drive and reinstall the OS.

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Posted By: Mark T

How it got in my email system and deleted my contacts without me opening anything is strange. I don't have AOL, i use Gmail which has been wonderful.

It looks like everyone but 4 contacts were affected. Those 4 are still there but all others have gone to the internet black hole.

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Posted By: george "bulldog" adams

hey matt that`s some poor information you`re tossing around it has nothing to do with msn messenger and it has nothing to do with chat clients and no passwords need to be changed this is a worm which is a self-replicating program or algorithm that sends a copy of itself to everyone listed in their email address book and then the worm self-replicates and sends itself to everyone listed in each of the receiver`s email address books and the end result is a huge devastating effect which can cause web servers and network servers and individual computers to crash due to the copying and traveling nature of the worm as it eats up so much system memory and network bandwidth. bulldog

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Posted By: george "bulldog" adams

would recommend you guys pick up a copy of mcaffee security center which contains a firewall and anti-virus and other tools it will clean up this mess and will block any future email worms as well as other security risks if you keep it updated. bulldog

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John - thanks for the update. If it's not too late, just changing your email password seems to solve the problem for others that were infected.

Mark - are you using any messaging/chat software? If you right click on the bar on the bottom of the screen, do you see anything like messenger.exe? Also, you haven't lost your contacts completely - the email that got sent from your account was sent to all of your contacts, so when you go look at that sent mail, you have a list of your contacts. Getting them re-entered may be a bit of work though.


Ugg. I just got the email from someone else. This thing is spreading FAST.

George - I disagree, but if you can reference some websites that support your claim, I would be happy to change my position. As it is everything I've seen says it is MSN related. According to your suggestion, how do you explain people's online MSN contact lists being used to send the email and then being deleted?

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Posted By: george "bulldog" adams

hey matt it is a worm and i am not offering my opinion i am stating a fact so there is nothing to agree or disagree with you can educate yourself by googling. bulldog

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Posted By: Matt

George maybe you could be kind enough and point me to a webpage that talks about this issue? Apparently my googling skills pale in comparison to yours as I have not been able to come up with anything that supports your claim regarding this behavior.

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Posted By: Mark T

never have used MSN messenger. I believe i have it pre-programed in my Dell but i have never even logged in.

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Posted By: Sean

I just googled "bulldog" and only a bunch of things came up about English Bulldogs and this cute picture...

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Posted By: Cobby33

We get this crap at work a lot and we have very expensive virus/spyware/etc. programs. These hackers are so sophisticated that they can get through it. Typically, I get copies of spam directed to (or from) other people in my office or contacts and they get the same from me. It sucks.

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Posted By: Matt

By the way, it appears MAC users are affected as well:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7288898

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George - I still can't find a link that confirms what you said - if you have one, why not post it?

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