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Old 07-09-2004, 09:31 PM
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Posted By: shoo

call me stupid but please point me in the direction where it is a fact that joe jackson accepted money im dying to see. As far as pete rose is concerned hes loser i never liked him when he played could care less about the man. Its kinda funny seeing come full circle.oh yeah when you comeback with the evidence on jackson please look up the world series he so called through and tell me what you find. good day

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Old 07-09-2004, 10:17 PM
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Posted By: Gary B.

I don't get it. The man was a fantastic ballplayer. He beat Ty Cobb's hit record. Let him the f**k in the hall of fame. He had a a problem. Does anyone not have some problems? Did his gambling have anything to do with how he played baseball? Let him in, and even though it won't do him any good at this point, for the sake of baseball, let Joe Jackson in. Ty Cobb was the most hated man in baseball, and on a personal level, so it's written, was not the finest of human beings. There was no problem with him getting in first time they let anyone in. Go ahead, give me your myriad reasons why he broke the rules, yadda, yadda, yadda. I'm not buying it. He's suffered enough. Let him in NOW.

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Old 07-09-2004, 10:27 PM
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Posted By: jay behrens

Nope, Rose doesn't go in. And I was a huge Rose fan as a kid. Rose's transgressions directly affected baseball. Jax I am more willing to let in because there is no proof that he threw games.

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Posted By: Gary B.

I thought most baseball fans were in favor of Rose getting in, but I guess I was wrong - oh well...

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Posted By: Gary B.

without Rose and Jackson in it.

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Posted By: J Levine

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I love threads like this but some people are totally missing the point. Pete Rose, Shoeless Joe Jackson, and even Eddie Cicotte are already in the Hall of Fame. They are!! I swear!! I have been there and have seen them. Someone made a great point that the Hall is a place for the rich history of the game. True enough. I held Rose's bat when I was in Cooperstown, I looked at Joe's shoes, and I saw a uniform cap worn by Cicotte. They are mentioned everywhere in the Hall of Fame and their memorabilia and careers are there. There is no large blank mark on the wall where it lists the All-Time Hit Leaders...it clearly says his name. All Rose wants is to have his day in the sun. I hope it never happens. He broke the rules, lied, and hurt the game. I was a fan of Rose as a kid and it even hurts me today to have to pay for his cards for my Phillies collection but not because he gambled. It is because he was a hero and lied. Those two things really don't go together with someone like me. Sorry, keep Rose out at least until I am dead and gone.

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Posted By: Gilbert Maines

There is lots of sense in the rule that you can't bet on baseball and be an active player or manager. And there is every reason for being unwavering in the punishment when one gets caught. However, the thoroughness of the investigations brought to bear on some, should be equal to that exerted on all, independent of whether their names are Jackson, Cobb, Speaker or anyone else.

After a good start, the Hall of Fame has since diluted itself with its membership selections, in my estimation.

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Posted By: jay behrens

You can thank the Veterans Committee for watering down the Hall by voting in friends rather than voting players that truely deserved to be in there.

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