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After I analyzed the evidence, with a dual-column gas chromatograph, Hewlett-Packard model 5710a with flame analyzing detectors, I have concluded that it could be anyone on the Cleveland team in 1911, but if I were going to make an educated guess, I would say it is either Joe Jackson or Ivy Olson.
I couldn't resist using a line from one of my favorite movies r/ Frank
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Also, this is how old he looked in 1910...
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So you're Vinny's cousin eh????? Sorry, it was waaay tooooooo easyyyyyyyy Steve |
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Interesting observation, Brett, and welcome to N54!
Here's a closeup image, cropped, with a little bit more contrast... |
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Upon closer observation, he does pass the "ear test"....I have to agree, it's Joe Jax.
But, it begs the question....why wasn't Joe featured in this set ? He did bat .408 in 1911, and he certainly deserves to be on one of the panels. Actually, the bigger question is....why isn't Joe on any of the ATC cards (1912-1917) featuring him as a Major Leaguer ? ? TED Z |
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I don't see how we can make a positive identification without being able to see his hair or his eyes, on a tiny image. I don't disagree that there is a resemblance, and it could well be he, but that hardly is proof positive.
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Re Pic....
Peter - There is not proof positive, but I think common sense says this is probably him due to resemblence, ears on blow up, etc. -- I would say it is more likely him than anyone else on the team. I like Brett's argument even though it can't be proved either way.
Were these panels taken from a photo/negative ? Was there a particular photographer for the orginal panel ? I don't know much about the T202's, but it would be neat to know the source of the middle panel...
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How could it POSSIBLY go this long without anyone noticing.
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I think it will always remain a mystery. It could by Joe, but just as easily Terry Turner or Ivy Olson.
Turner seated with Jackson, the other two photos are of Ivy. Last edited by tbob; 05-21-2010 at 09:58 PM. |
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