Big Mail Day Jeter SP!!

[Jhileman79]

Thanks Greg @Lowpopper for the easy deal on a high end item!!! This looks better than an 9




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[Sierra79]

That's a huge pickup!!! Certainly has great eye appeal, and at the very least it is a super strong 9. Any idea what kept it from a 98? Surface?

[Jhileman79]

Originally Posted by Sierra79

That's a huge pickup!!! Certainly has great eye appeal, and at the very least it is a super strong 9. Any idea what kept it from a 98? Surface?

Some white edge on the back. I am going to send to BGS to try to get a 9.5.



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[lowpopper]

Originally Posted by Jhileman79

Thanks Greg @Lowpopper for the easy deal on a high end item!!! This looks better than an 9




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Thanks. Jared was a pleasure to deal with. Highly recommended buyer.

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[CW]

CONGRATS! Card looks great based on the photo.

[Jhileman79]

Originally Posted by CW

CONGRATS! Card looks great based on the photo.

Thanks!! It is the best Jeter SP I have ever owned!


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[ls7plus]

My deepest sympathies go out to you. Hope you didn't pay too much for a player who was, as a matter of absolute fact, approximately 3% better offensively than Alan Trammel (OPS+ 115 to 111, a totally valid comparison between players of different eras), and not nearly as good defensively. Signature Jeter hit? Fisted blooper to right field (I sure saw enough of them off his bat--too numerous to count!). Signature Mantle hit? 450-500 foot+ homer (such as the blast to right off the facade at old Yankee Stadium, 117 feet high, 374' from home plate; the one over the left field scoreboard at old Griffith Park in Washington--supposedly traveling 565 feet--and the fact that center field UPPER deck in old Tiger Stadium--field level, 440' to dead center--was known as "Mickey Mantle territory" for good reason; plus 3 over the right field roof at Tiger Stadium). Plus, there are thousands and thousands of this card out there in higher grades, with extremely little to differentiate between them!

Just my personal opinion, and I'm not trying to dampen your parade out of ill motive, but sometimes a little reason has to filter into the "popular" category, and not just mist, smoke, delusion and hype! Like the actual ability of the player, and not the common illusion regarding same. Jeter was a compiler, which is why is bare total stats over a long period make him look considerably better than he really was.

Just sayin',

Larry

[Jhileman79]

Originally Posted by ls7plus

My deepest sympathies go out to you. Hope you didn't pay too much for a player who was, as a matter of absolute fact, approximately 3% better offensively than Alan Trammel (OPS+ 115 to 111, a totally valid comparison between players of different eras), and not nearly as good defensively. Signature Jeter hit? Fisted blooper to right field (I sure saw enough of them off his bat--too numerous to count!). Signature Mantle hit? 450-500 foot+ homer (such as the blast to right off the facade at old Yankee Stadium, 117 feet high, 374' from home plate; the one over the left field scoreboard at old Griffith Park in Washington--supposedly traveling 565 feet--and the fact that center field UPPER deck in old Tiger Stadium--field level, 440' to dead center--was known as "Mickey Mantle territory" for good reason; plus 3 over the right field roof at Tiger Stadium). Plus, there are thousands and thousands of this card out there in higher grades, with extremely little to differentiate between them!

Just my personal opinion, and I'm not trying to dampen your parade out of ill motive, but sometimes a little reason has to filter into the "popular" category, and not just mist, smoke, delusion and hype! Like the actual ability of the player, and not the common illusion regarding same. Jeter was a compiler, which is why is bare total stats over a long period make him look considerably better than he really was.

Just sayin',

Larry

I’m a Yankee fan. Grew up idolizing Don Mattingly. Watched the “Core 4” dominate and win titles. Jeter had an amazing career and will be a first ballot HOF. This is the most iconic modern baseball card!

Go Troll somewhere else.

Go Yankees!


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[Sierra79]

Originally Posted by ls7plus

...as a matter of absolute fact, approximately 3% better offensively than Alan Trammel

Yeah, but what I think your neglecting to take into account is that Jeter was ROY, broke 3K hits, .310 career BA, 14xAS, 5xWS champ, and ROY, and if that's not enough, he played for the Yankees in a dynasty period. So, I'm not knocking Trammell or his own RC card, but in terms of name recognition, even outside of the hobby, Jeter is an iconic player and soon to be 1st ballot HOFer.

As far as his '93 SP rookie is concerned you are right, the population is enormous, but...once you get to the mint grades now we're talking several hundred cards not thousands. I also, don't see to the numbers changing too much as the years go on as most of those '93 SP's are probably stuck together or have been warped in their boxes over time. The foil on those cards are extremely sensitive to indentations in the surface, chipping, and corner wear. His looks far nicer than most (unless you haven't taken a look at those things up close) - honestly looks like a BGS 9.5. And, while the population of '78 Trammell/Molitor (and even the '78 BK) cards is much smaller, Jeter's popularity/recognition is far greater than both Trammell and Molitor combined, I'm not really sold on Trammell as a comparable to Jeter in terms of hobby appeal.

Either way, it should be interesting to see what happens to mint 9+ graded after he gets inducted.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by ls7plus

My deepest sympathies go out to you. Hope you didn't pay too much for a player who was, as a matter of absolute fact, approximately 3% better offensively than Alan Trammel (OPS+ 115 to 111, a totally valid comparison between players of different eras), and not nearly as good defensively. Signature Jeter hit? Fisted blooper to right field (I sure saw enough of them off his bat--too numerous to count!). Signature Mantle hit? 450-500 foot+ homer (such as the blast to right off the facade at old Yankee Stadium, 117 feet high, 374' from home plate; the one over the left field scoreboard at old Griffith Park in Washington--supposedly traveling 565 feet--and the fact that center field UPPER deck in old Tiger Stadium--field level, 440' to dead center--was known as "Mickey Mantle territory" for good reason; plus 3 over the right field roof at Tiger Stadium). Plus, there are thousands and thousands of this card out there in higher grades, with extremely little to differentiate between them!

Just my personal opinion, and I'm not trying to dampen your parade out of ill motive, but sometimes a little reason has to filter into the "popular" category, and not just mist, smoke, delusion and hype! Like the actual ability of the player, and not the common illusion regarding same. Jeter was a compiler, which is why is bare total stats over a long period make him look considerably better than he really was.

Just sayin',

Larry

Wow way to throw a wet blanket on that. Just because you hold a personal opinion about a certain player doesn't mean that player can't have a fantastic baseball card. Jeez.

[smrtn240]

great info here, just lay off the sauce