OT: Manning announces his retirement

[T205 GB]

Very sad day to hear that Peyton has decided to take a permanent vacation from the NFL.

Best wishes and been a blast watching you as a player!

[mickeymao34]

He is a class act. Old school and team first player and doesn't cheat. Players like him are definitely in the rare dept.

[Jobu]

Great player, perhaps the best QB ever. I do hope that he does fewer commercials in retirement though, that would make me very happy.

[ksabet]

Originally Posted by Jobu

Great player, perhaps the best QB ever. I do hope that he does fewer commercials in retirement though, that would make me very happy.

I am one to always differentiate best Qbs vs. best passers

Best QBs ever

1. Tom Brady (And I am a Bills fan)
2. Joe Montana
3. Peyton Manning
4. Otto Graham
5. Brett Favre

Best Passers

1. Peyton Manning
2. Dan Marino
3. Aaron Rodgers
4. Fran Tarkenton
5. Drew Brees

[Peter_Spaeth]

Sonny Jurgensen goes on my list of best passers. Incomparable. And I don't see how any QB list doesn't have Unitas.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Sonny Jurgensen goes on my list of best passers. Incomparable. And I don't see how any QB list doesn't have Unitas.

Or John Elway, for that matter.

[ksabet]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Sonny Jurgensen goes on my list of best passers. Incomparable. And I don't see how any QB list doesn't have Unitas.

Sonny maybe, he was an exquisite passer, but Unitas as great as he was has just been passed. He would be in the Top 10, but most of the great modern day passers do things that would make Unitas go from 6:00 to 12:00 real fast.

On a side note, another explanation could be because your old.

[icollectDCsports]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Sonny Jurgensen goes on my list of best passers. Incomparable. And I don't see how any QB list doesn't have Unitas.

Agree with both points.

I think it's hard to rank players with one guy being a solid #1, then 2, then 3, etc., but I don't know how you'd rank anyone above Jurgensen as a pure passer. He was incredible. (Having Charley Taylor, Bobby Mitchell, and Jerry Smith didn't hurt, but his throwing and offensive management were great.) I'd perhaps put Marino and maybe Rodgers in the same class, but wouldn't say any of them is the clear cut best.

As for Unitas, I don't know how you compare across eras, but I think he's in the group of the top QBs ever.

And don't forget Otto Graham.

[chaddurbin]

Originally Posted by mickeymao34

He is a class act. Old school and team first player and doesn't cheat. Players like him are definitely in the rare dept.

class act? he has good pr hype machine, and good goons. good management team like bill cosby's.

[egri]

Will miss watching him and Brady go at it; that was always a good rivalry. Though I do agree with Jobu about the commercials.

[sportscardpete]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

class act? he has good pr hype machine, and good goons. good management team like bill cosby's.

Thanks for the childish remarks.


He's a great talent and a legend. He will be sorely missed.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I recall the expert rap on Marino was that he was subpar in his ability to find his secondary receivers. This is perhaps Brady's greatest talent, and was Manning's. He certainly had a quick release and great arm.

[chaddurbin]

Originally Posted by sportscardpete

Thanks for the childish remarks.


He's a great talent and a legend. He will be sorely missed.

just because he's very good at football, doesn't mean he's a good person. i was only replying to the class act part...if you show this thread to the parents of the hgh source whom he sent "private investigators" to their house to harass and intimidate them a few months ago they wouldn't share that same opinion.

but yea tom brady or joe montana over peyton as best QB ever...and aaron rodgers is the best passer ever past or present. he may not have the best arm but his deft touch and pinpoint accuracy lets him make throws into small disappearing windows that only he can pull off. plus he thows very catchable spiraling balls (very underrated aspect of qb-ing)...he doesn't overpower you like a cam ball or dying ducks of manning. rodgers' always balanced with his little moves inside the pocket.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

if you show this thread to the parents of the hgh source whom he sent "private investigators" to their house to harass and intimidate them a few months ago they wouldn't share that same opinion.

http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/02/05/pey...era-hgh-source

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