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Old 08-12-2018, 10:30 PM
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Default 1950 Tinghalls World Cup Backs Thread

I have always been interested in back variations of cards. I love that one of the most iconic soccer card sets, 1950 Tinghalls - which includes some of the coolest & rarest team USA cards - has lots of different backs. So a while back, I started cataloging different 1950s Tinghalls backs.

As of January of this year, here are the different backs that I had cataloged:
  1. Blank Back

  2. Tinghalls Blue Type 1 - "O Tinghalls Karamelfabrik Industrigatan 29 Halsinburg" (Dark Blue / Turquoise / Light Blue Letters)

  3. Tinghalls Orange Type 1 - "O Tinghalls Karamelfabrik Industrigatan 29 Halsinburg" (Orange Letters)
    Tinghalls Orange.jpg
  4. Tinghalls Black Type 1 - "O Tinghalls Karamelfabrik Industrigatan 29 Halsinburg" - (Black / Dark Brown Letters)

  5. Tinghalls Orange Type 2 - "O Tinghalls Industrigatan 29 Halsinburg Karamelfabrik" - (Orange (reddish) Letters)

  6. Tinghalls Black Type 2 - "O Tinghalls Industrigatan 29 Halsinburg Karamelfabrik" - (Brownish Black/Grey Letters)

  7. Flamingo Black - "Flamingo- Frabriken Astorp" - Brownish Black

  8. Flamingo Red - "Flamingo- Frabriken Astorp" - Red

  9. Flamingo Blue - "Flamingo- Frabriken Astorp" (Turquoise /* Light Blue Letters)

  10. Flamingo Green - "Flamingo-Frabriken Astorp" (Green Letters)

  11. Raia - "Konfectyrnederlaget RAIA Halsingborg Tel 24315 & 11705" (Brown Letters)

  12. Trick Klubban - "Trick- Klubban" (Red Letters)

*Note: I have consolidated hues of the same color (such as darker blue/turquoise and orange/red) in this list because I am not certain that they are different colors versus less ink of the same color.

For years I have tracked Tinghalls on Swedish auction sites and have always been fascinated about two variants that exist for the local Swedish teams but not for the World Cup teams. One is a yellow/gold back letters, and the other more fascinating is what I call the "Dead Fish" back because it shows a picture of what looks like a dead fish. I assumed that these backs don't exist for WC players, only for local teams.

Well earlier this year I found a copy of a World Cup player with the Dead Fish back, so I can officially confirm a 13th back variation of:
13) Dead Fish / Bordtennis Back - "Bast i Bordtennis Aidst i Bordtennis (Black Letters)

Dead Fish Back - Bast i bordtennis Aldst i bordtennis (Spain - Basora).jpg Dead Fish Back Spain - Basora.jpg

I am really excited to finally find a "Dead Fish" back for a World Cup player!!!!

Now, I would love to hear from others who own Tinghalls cards about what backs you have. Some of the things I am wondering are:
  • Does anyone have any World Cup cards with backs not on this list? (local Swedish teams don't count, but the Sweden World Cup team cards do)
  • Which backs do you find most common?
  • Does anyone else have any dead fish backs?
  • I am wondering if Raia & Trick Kluban only has one printing per player - does anyone know if more than one exist of each player for these backs?

Any other information or feedback on Tinghalls backs is open and appreciated in this thread as well.
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I am not sure my attachments came through. If you can't see the attachments for all the different backs, let me know and I'll try again.
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Old 08-13-2018, 12:13 AM
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I am not sure my attachments came through. If you can't see the attachments for all the different backs, let me know and I'll try again.
I have a complete “basic set”, by will need to get back to you on the backs!! Pun intended
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Old 08-13-2018, 07:41 PM
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Default Repost of Backs with Images

Let me try this again with the images for each back type:
  1. Blank Back
    Blank Back (Brazil - Juvenal).jpg
  2. Tinghalls Blue Type 1 - "O Tinghalls Karamelfabrik Industrigatan 29 Halsinburg" (Dark Blue / Turquoise / Light Blue Letters)
    Tinghalls Blue Back - O Tinghalls Karamellfabrik Industrigatan 29 Halsingborg Blue Back (Brazil .jpg
  3. Tinghalls Orange Type 1 - "O Tinghalls Karamelfabrik Industrigatan 29 Halsinburg" (Orange Letters)
    Tinghalls Orange.jpg
  4. Tinghalls Black Type 1 - "O Tinghalls Karamelfabrik Industrigatan 29 Halsinburg" - (Black / Dark Brown Letters)
    Tinghalls Brown Back (Vidal - Uruguay).jpg
  5. Tinghalls Orange Type 2 - "O Tinghalls Industrigatan 29 Halsinburg Karamelfabrik" - (Orange (reddish) Letters)
    Tinghalls Orange - Industrigatan 29 First.jpg
  6. Tinghalls Black Type 2 - "O Tinghalls Industrigatan 29 Halsinburg Karamelfabrik" - (Brownish Black/Grey Letters)
    Tinghalls Black - Industrigatan 29 First.JPG
  7. Flamingo Black - "Flamingo- Frabriken Astorp" - Brownish Black
    Flamingo Black Back (Uruguay - Andrade).jpg
  8. Flamingo Red - "Flamingo- Frabriken Astorp" - Red
    Flamingo Red back (Sweden - Jonsson).jpg
  9. Flamingo Blue - "Flamingo- Frabriken Astorp" (Turquoise /* Light Blue Letters)
    Flaming Blue Back (Sweden - Mellberg).jpg
  10. Flamingo Green - "Flamingo-Frabriken Astorp" (Green Letters)
    Flamingo Green Back (Brazil - Barbosa).jpg
  11. Raia - "Konfectyrnederlaget RAIA Halsingborg Tel 24315 & 11705" (Brown Letters)
    Raia Back.jpg
  12. Trick Klubban - "Trick- Klubban" (Red Letters)
    Trick Kluban Back.jpg
  13. Dead Fish / Bordtennis Back - "Bast i Bordtennis Aidst i Bordtennis (Black Letters)
    Dead Fish Back - Bast i bordtennis Aldst i bordtennis (Spain - Basora).jpg
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Old 08-14-2018, 09:09 AM
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Nice! I only have 4 and they are either blank back or light blue O Tinghalls
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Default Hey Jonathan

I went through about 50 or so of mine, I found a few that I do not think that you have...

The RAIA orange back

and (maybe) a couple of color variations on Flamengo backs - I cannot really be sure given that colors are different... you be the judge....
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I went through about 50 or so of mine, I found a few that I do not think that you have...

The RAIA orange back

and (maybe) a couple of color variations on Flamengo backs - I cannot really be sure given that colors are different... you be the judge....
That Raia Orange Back is definitely a new back variation. I will add it to the list.

The Flamingo backs I would consider lighter shades of the same variations. The green is sometimes really strong and other times lighter and I would consider the one you showed to be the same as #10 on my list. And the dark color that goes between black, grey & brown for the Flamingo back I have also been calling what I list as #7.

But I am excited to catalog the orange Raia since I have never seen one of those before.

I have a couple other questions on card backs, if anyone has any input:

1) At times I have wondered if the backs were hand stamped instead of printed. Does anyone know how to tell?

2) Does anyone know what these back specifically advertise? Candy, cigarettes, a bit of both? (or how they were distributed)
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Old 08-16-2018, 11:04 PM
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Default Not sure

But what I am told is with candies. I have not found any references to confirm this. Surely you have seen some cars with “bands”. I believe that there was a small paper band that “bound” the card to the candy made of a more absorbent material than the card itself. Thereby the “strip” would absorb the candy and with a higher concentration of the candy material were thereby transferred to the cards. Pure conjecture, but I have a number of cards that would support this hypothesis.
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