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Old 01-18-2019, 11:43 AM
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Apparently you didn't comprehend what I wrote? I said this-

The best looking cards are definitely being gobbled up and their prices reflect it.

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I don't see how one could argue against that idea. Any card depicting the Horner portrait of Wagner sells at a considerable premium, even the Colgan Chip, because it features an iconic image.

Why can't there be room for aesthetics to drive prices?
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I wasn't responding to you. I was agreeing with you. I was asking a rhetorical question about why it doesn't make sense.
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Old 01-18-2019, 11:47 AM
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Since you quoted me I thought you were responding to me. We are in agreement.
And of course I got the E90-1 Young portrait I wanted and paid a high record price for it at the time. But looking back it was most likely a very good investment as "1 of 1" highest graded cards go.




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I wasn't responding to you. I was agreeing with you. I was asking a rhetorical question about why it doesn't make sense.
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For people on this site that know me, I'm a dealer of T206 cards for many years, so I can only answer for these cards. There has been a wave of new buyers in the hobby on these cards. You see the high amount of different bidders when a item closes on e-bay, no matter who is auctioning the card off. There has been a wave of high prices of these cards since early last year when the green portrait Cobb starting taking off. It has a caused a domino effect on other Cobb poses & has continued to the Johnson, Young, Mathewson, Speaker, & Lajoie portraits. It could effect other Hall of Fame portraits and other poses on the portrait cards that are currently taking off. Even T206 Southern League Old Mill backs have increased in price that are PSA graded. Eventually some of these Hall of Fame cards will level off and something else in this set will be in demand.
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Makes no sense? How else do you explain the disparity between the Red Cobb and the Green Cobb other than one looks nicer than the other? How else do you explain the disparity between action poses and portraits other than the portraits are nicer looking cards? Why does the E-90 Cy Young card sell for so much money? You don't think it has anything to do with the image on the card?

My point is that aesthetics could be playing a larger role in collecting today whereas rarity or types could have been the motivating force behind past sales. I don't care about rarity anymore. I want NICE cards. I'm sure I'm not alone.
I didn't know that the Green Cobb looked nicer than the Red Cobb. This is news to me.
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I didn't know that the Green Cobb looked nicer than the Red Cobb. This is news to me.
It depends on the person. There is a lot of green in the world. Blue and green are the most prevelant colors. Our minds have evolved to be receptive of color and use color to help judge and make decisions.


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Hey Pete! Great question. It's funny that you raise this question as a buddy and I were just having this conversation a couple of days ago.

Without piggybacking off of other people's ideas, all of which are valid and possible, and in all likelihood probable; let me offer another option.

Is it possible that the current mentality of the "shiny card collector" has seeped it's way into our universe? They don't collect sets. They don't buys packs of cards trying to fill binders. They don't trade commons, just because they need that one to finish off a team set. What do they do? They chase the lottery ticket. They are chasing some super refractor 1/1, written in gold ink. They buy a 5 card pack, for an outrageous amount of money, and don't care about 4/5 of the cards. They only want to know about "the hit".

Is it possible that in addition to every valid point that has been brought up thus far, that there is also an element of "lottery chasing" going on? How often do we see thread titled "What's the next Green Cobb?" or "What's the next Bond Bread?". I don't know, but I do believe, to a certain extent, that everyone wants the lottery ticket and they see this as a better/safer avenue than 6 good numbers.
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The economy is doing really well, at least where I live. I decided to sell an old card I had in my drive way last week....I posted it online and sold it in about 30 minutes. Housing prices are very strong. Everybody who wants one has a job, and in most cases a good paying job.

When the economy was doing really crappy in about 2008-2010 everybody was selling off their collections it seemed. There were some that wanted to sell but wouldn't at the low prices everything was going for.

I don't know about any specific card, but it will circle back around. When it does a lot of people will see the value of their cards dropping and decide to cash out again.
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Hey Pete! Great question. It's funny that you raise this question as a buddy and I were just having this conversation a couple of days ago.

Without piggybacking off of other people's ideas, all of which are valid and possible, and in all likelihood probable; let me offer another option.

Is it possible that the current mentality of the "shiny card collector" has seeped it's way into our universe? They don't collect sets. They don't buys packs of cards trying to fill binders. They don't trade commons, just because they need that one to finish off a team set. What do they do? They chase the lottery ticket. They are chasing some super refractor 1/1, written in gold ink. They buy a 5 card pack, for an outrageous amount of money, and don't care about 4/5 of the cards. They only want to know about "the hit".

Is it possible that in addition to every valid point that has been brought up thus far, that there is also an element of "lottery chasing" going on? How often do we see thread titled "What's the next Green Cobb?" or "What's the next Bond Bread?". I don't know, but I do believe, to a certain extent, that everyone wants the lottery ticket and they see this as a better/safer avenue than 6 good numbers.
Absolutely...there is no doubt this type of activity going on. As you stated many people looking for the next big card hoarding up T206s and other poses of different sets.
I think this is also an essential driver of prices is the hoarding of poses probably brought on by people collecting runs in the first place.

One collector on this board has posted 50 or more T206 One collector on this board has posted 50 or more T206 cobbs of various poses for exampls.
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Right on cue.

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