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Old 07-24-2019, 12:53 PM
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Jeff will take his ball and take it home if we don't stop picking on him? If we dont stop picking on him, he wont give us updates. I am sorry but, he brought this upon himself. He was the one who made claims against Brent and PSA and now if we behave, we will be allowed to read his posts? BLECH!!!! I am sure I will be ok without them as most of what will come out will be public record anyway.
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Old 07-24-2019, 02:15 PM
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Jeff will take his ball and take it home if we don't stop picking on him? If we dont stop picking on him, he wont give us updates. I am sorry but, he brought this upon himself. He was the one who made claims against Brent and PSA and now if we behave, we will be allowed to read his posts? BLECH!!!! I am sure I will be ok without them as most of what will come out will be public record anyway.

Agreed. I could care less if he comes on again and gives "inside " information on the case or anything for that matter. He chose his side on this one.
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Old 07-24-2019, 02:22 PM
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Agreed. I could care less if he comes on again and gives "inside " information on the case or anything for that matter. He chose his side on this one.
Anyone thinking he's going to give N54 insider info is.....well, just wrong. Laughable really. Anyone thinking that he's taken Brentsy's case out of the best interest of the hobby is...well, just wrong. Again, laughable. His interest lies in protecting PWCC...period.

Anyone think he took El Chapo's case because he cares about the drug crisis? Gotti's case because he's concerned about organized crime?
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Old 07-24-2019, 02:27 PM
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Anyone thinking he's going to give N54 insider info is.....well, just wrong. Laughable really. Anyone thinking that he's taken Brentsy's case out of the best interest of the hobby is...well, just wrong. Again, laughable. His interest lies in protecting PWCC...period.

Anyone think he took El Chapo's case because he cares about the drug crisis? Gotti's case because he's concerned about organized crime?
Maybe he's just bad at judging character? Even Leon got fooled by the Mastro guys.

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Old 07-24-2019, 02:46 PM
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Maybe he's just bad at judging character? Even Leon got fooled by the Mastro guys.

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I think if you go back and look you will see I wasn't as much fooled as I took a wait and see approach. For the record, Mastro was never an advertiser on this forum. And lastly, if you go back and look, I can guarantee I never said either Mastro or Doug weren't guilty. I just wouldn't do that. It gets said so much it is believed but is far from the truth. Go spend some time and find it, you won't. Mostly it's little internet anonymous trolls that spread the lies and then folks like yourself believe them. It's ok, you aren't alone. I usually just let these kind of statements go but figure I might as well correct the incorrect record of some things. Now, that all said, of course both of those guys are charismatic. A lot of people committing fraud are. I should also say, at one time I admit I was friendly with Doug and Mastro but only in a few hobby scenarios.....and never knew they committed fraud until it came out they did. And in the end, except for restitution, got mostly what it seemed they deserved.

As far as Jeff defending Brent, while leading the charge against fraud in the hobby, I will let others discuss it.
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Old 07-24-2019, 02:58 PM
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I never said anything about advertisements. You thought they were your friends, but they turned out to be criminals. That's all I inferred. Not your fault. Criminals are nice to people that they make a lot of money from.
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I never said anything about advertisements. You thought they were your friends, but they turned out to be criminals. That's all I inferred. Not your fault. Criminals are nice to people that they make a lot of money from.
Well, I agree with that. It was unfortunate and it is still sad it happened. But greed is what it is.
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