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Old 05-04-2006, 09:44 PM
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Posted By: Jim Manos

I just picked up a 1924/25 Universal Toy Yankees card W504 of the team. The unique thing is that Gehrig is in the team picture. The card measures 5 x 3 1/2 This would be his first card?? I thought the exhibt from 1925 was but I would have to say it is a earlier card. Am I missing something??

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Old 05-04-2006, 09:58 PM
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Posted By: warshawlaw

but it isn't a rookie card if it is a team card.

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Old 05-04-2006, 10:09 PM
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Posted By: Jim Manos

Many collector's today are on the W601 Team and W601 postcards(ie... Cobb) as possible rookie cards. I don't know but it is unique that he is on the card and it being earlier than the exhibt of 1925. Not that I made some bid find, I just find it neat that he is in there and I never knew it, nor did many others I bet??

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Old 05-04-2006, 11:43 PM
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Posted By: fkw

I always thought the W590 and the 1925 Exhibits as Gehrig's rookies (1st cards).

If you can call a 1925 W504 team card a rookie, then Nolan Ryan's Rookie is the 1967 Topps Mets Team card, and not too many will go for that (Ryan is pictured on the 1967 Team card).

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Posted By: davidcycleback

As example, the 1967 Topps Mets Team card pictures Nolan Ryan, but it's the 1968 card that is considered his rookie.

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Posted By: JIm Manos

Knowledge is power. The W504 were actually distributed in 1924 and 25 I know Lemeke has 1925 but others have 24/25?? Not that it matter's. Thx's for the insite.

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Old 05-05-2006, 07:45 AM
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I find it fascinating that so much hand wringing is spent on the designation of a rookie card. As vintage card experts, shouldn't the board aspire to loftier discussions? I also didn't realize this board had the authority to make such decisions. SAD, SAD, SAD.

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Posted By: peter ullman

funny isn't it...the whole "rookie" phenomenon. definitely kinda new to the hobby and nothing i was ever too concerned with. but, it is a current reality and is here to stay. As the hobby turns!

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Posted By: jim

I would think that the term RC would be unnecesary for vintage cards. I am happy to have a second or third... year card of Cobb or Ruth, etc. Seems people want to put the RC tag on a card to solely increase it's resale value. From what I have seen in the vintage card category, that is not needed. Good cards sell no matter what year.

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Old 05-05-2006, 08:36 AM
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Posted By: peter ullman

i agree with you jim...but...having rc in front of any card...especially vintage, like the babe or cobb, i'd think would greatly enhance it's value and appeal to some!

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