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Duke Snider
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I choose OPS as a more meaningful stat to gauge a ballplayer's offensive worth to his team. Because that's what WINS games. Mays' OPS # is .941 and Snider's OPS # is .919; however, Snider's value to the Dodgers during the regular seasons (1949 - 1959) was amazing. Especially in World Series play where Snider's numbers are significantly greater than Mays' numbers in World Series play. Incidentally, you'll get no arguments from me regarding Mickey Mantle. I grew up seeing him play (watching TV and live at Yankee Stadium). Mickey was my idol. TED Z T206 Reference . Last edited by tedzan; 09-11-2019 at 05:59 PM. Reason: Corrected typo. |
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It’s interesting that you won’t argue Mantle vs Duke but have plenty of argument for Willie vs Duke. Willie was clearly the best of the 3. Some would argue that Mays was the greatest player of all time with his defense taken into the equation - and is in most people’s top 3.
No disrespect to the career and legacy of Duke Snider who is a well deserved HOF member. But he’s not in the same class as the others. Quote:
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I can't see ranking Mays any lower than 5th. Mantle is an interesting case depending on how much you value his phenomenal on base percentage due to walks, but he is obviously a top 20 player if not significantly higher. Snider, I can't see higher than maybe 50-60.
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I think, as his career shook out, Snider is right around 50th (His OPS is 48th, and that's behind a number of roid users) My point is as the three of them were in center field in NY at the same time in the mid 50's "Who is best" was a much more valid question then, than it is in retrospect today.
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Willie, Mickey, or the Duke.... ?
Continuing to discuss this matter any further is futile, for I cannot relate with people who never saw Willie, Mickey, or the Duke play Baseball in the 1950's.
One thing nice about growing older, your mind starts reverting back to your youth and Baseball in the 1950's becomes very clear in my mind. Especially, if you grew up in the greater NY - NJ area. So, I leave you with some thing to think about......some thing intangible that "stands out" which Mickey Mantle and Carl Yastrzemski have achieved that no other BB players in modern history have achieved. These two ballplayers directly "stepped" into the footprints of two tremendous ballplayers (Joe DiMaggio and Ted Williams) and succeeded tremendously. This is an extremely rare occurrence in the history of this game. I cannot think of any other BB player who has achieved this to the degree that Mickey and Carl did. Think about this, let it sink into your minds....it's an awesome accomplishment which is unique to these two guys. Good night, TED Z T206 Reference . |
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Aren't two different questions being asked, with (potentially) two different answers?
1. Was Duke Snider's career as great/valuable as Mantle and Mays? and 2. Was Duke Snider as good at Mantle and Mays at their respective peaks? The answer to #1 is clearly "no", based on longevity...but #2 is a different question with an answer that's at least debatable, I'd think. |
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