1966 Topps 6th Series/Semi-Hi's

[Kevvyg1026]

Are you suggesting that Gonzalez is over Klippstein rather than Nuxhall? These miscuts appear to suggest that both the Cubs RS and Nuxhall are LE card, and Gonzalez is clearly under Cubs RS.


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[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Kevvyg1026

Are you suggesting that Gonzalez is over Klippstein rather than Nuxhall? These miscuts appear to suggest that both the Cubs RS and Nuxhall are LE card, and Gonzalez is clearly under Cubs RS.

Not at all, I’m saying a sliver of a back miscut of a Nuxhall would be similar to the Cubs Rookie Stars card.

[deweyinthehall]

I haven't looked too deeply into it, but last year I did run pop counts for this series across eBay, Deans, COMC and PSA.

Looking at the numbers I came up with I wonder whether there isn't a third level of quantities - like in the 1967 7th series with something like 5x, 3x and 2x or whatever it was. I can't see any clear breaks which would suggest that it can be divided neatly into 3 4x's and 4 3x's. It seems like a steady consistent upward slope in counts from the obvious lowest (Moeller, Cubs Rookies etc. ) to the obvious highest (O'Donoghue, Hannan, Stigman etc.).

I also saw a lot of incongruities between the numbers, particularly eBay and PSA.

You've gone through exercises like this more than I have, so I'm interested to know what your thoughts are.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by deweyinthehall

I haven't looked too deeply into it, but last year I did run pop counts for this series across eBay, Deans, COMC and PSA.

Looking at the numbers I came up with I wonder whether there isn't a third level of quantities - like in the 1967 7th series with something like 5x, 3x and 2x or whatever it was. I can't see any clear breaks which would suggest that it can be divided neatly into 3 4x's and 4 3x's. It seems like a steady consistent upward slope in counts from the obvious lowest (Moeller, Cubs Rookies etc. ) to the obvious highest (O'Donoghue, Hannan, Stigman etc.).

I also saw a lot of incongruities between the numbers, particularly eBay and PSA.

You've gone through exercises like this more than I have, so I'm interested to know what your thoughts are.

I think there are too many confirmed 4x cards for there to be a 5x, 4x, 3x, 3x, 3x, 3x, 3x situation like the 1967 7th Series, but it is odd to me why there are currently 220 listings of Steve Hamilton and 90 listings of Camilo Carreon on eBay if they are both on 4x rows.

[Cliff Bowman]

I thought for sure that it was Pirates Rookie Stars under Schofield but when I compared the miscut to a #498 Pirates Rookie Stars card the white in the corner didn't match Woodie Fryman's black sleeve, so I looked at what other Rookie Stars cards there are in the Series and forgot there is a Red Sox, it has the same color as the Pirates and the white of Joe Foy's uniform matches the white in the corner so I'm positive #456 Red Sox Rookie Stars is under Dick Schofield.

[deweyinthehall]

Couple new ones by Battersbox today -

Manny Jimenez under what appears to be a Red or Twins (we also have him beneath an Angel or Brave).

Also, Tony Gonzalez is on the top of at least one slit - this gives us 4 cards in a top row - Gonzalez, Aaron, Lolich and Wynn.

[deweyinthehall]

With the Schofield over the Red Sox rookies, we now have 6 of 7 in another column - Schofield, Red Sox Rookies, Gibbon, Braves Rookies, Coleman, Hannan.