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Old 05-28-2012, 02:19 PM
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Default Fake 1949 Yankee Ring on Ebay

I see someone is selling a bad 1949 Yankee Ring on ebay. Sadly, it looks like a family member from the original owner may have represented the ring as real.

The ebay seller is asking quite a bit of money for the ring and already has two offers.

Here is the ebay auction:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1949-NEW-YORK-YANKEES-WORLD-SERIES-CHAMPIONSHIP-RING-C-E-OLSEN-PERSONAL-RING-/120922178624?pt=Vintage_Sports_Memorabilia&hash=item1c27860440


The real 1949 Yankee rings have a very different style of engraving inside the ring and two sides from a real '49 ring are a completely different style than shown in the auction.

I do know that Balfour, in the 60 years since the original rings were made lost the molds and now reproduce the 1949 ring with the more common sides that we see on the Yankee rings from the 1950's. The ring offered on ebay has the style we see in the 1950's.

The first picture I have included is a player's 1949 ring with the proper and original shank. The second picture is the shank from the ebay auction. You can see how different the ring on ebay is from the original 1949 ring.

If anyone knows the seller, can you ask him to change the listing to explain it is a later reproduction and not original. Furthermore, Irv Learner, known to make many fake yankee rings, marks his ring, Balfour 14K, where the 14K almost runs into the Balfour word. I have never seen a real ring engraved in this way, just Irv's bogus rings that he tries to sell through auction houses and on ebay. This ring, has the same markings as Irv's rings and the engraved name is very different than the style we see used for engraving in the 1940's and 1950's.

Any help is getting ebay to delete or change the listing or getting the seller to make the changes would be appreceated and helpful to potential bidders.

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Old 05-28-2012, 02:45 PM
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I sent an email to the ebay seller explaining the ring was not original and here was his reply:

"Hi Mike, we are told that C.E. olsen received the ring a couple years after 1949. He had a ring for every year they won the world series! This comes with a letter from his son. We had the ring looked at by two experts before purchasing the ring. Thanks Mike!"

I hope he did not pay too much money to the two experts who helped him with the purchase of his ring.

I asked him to please change the listing to explain the ring was made years later and is not an original ring.

Can anyone help should he decide to leave the listing as-is?
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Old 05-28-2012, 05:46 PM
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the seller ended the auction early and relisted the item with a lower buy-it-now price.

Still no mention that the ring is not an original ring.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1949-NEW-YOR...item1e6e912a25
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the seller ended the auction early and relisted the item with a lower buy-it-now price.

Still no mention that the ring is not an original ring.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1949-NEW-YOR...item1e6e912a25
Does now, just not very clearly:

1949 NEW YORK YANKEES WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIP RING!!! THIS WAS C.E.OLSENS PERSONAL RING! WE ARE TOLD THE RING WAS MADE YEARS AFTER. THE RING IS MADE AND ISCRIBED BALFOUR 14K!
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Does now, just not very clearly:

1949 NEW YORK YANKEES WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIP RING!!! THIS WAS C.E.OLSENS PERSONAL RING! WE ARE TOLD THE RING WAS MADE YEARS AFTER. THE RING IS MADE AND ISCRIBED BALFOUR 14K!
Well that's a start..... Should I just leave it alone?
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Well that's a start..... Should I just leave it alone?
Well, Caveat Emptor. If someone is willing to spend that kind of $$$ and not do all the research.................?
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