Babe Ruth assist please

[brooklynbaseball]

Always nervous about purchases this size and would appreciate the help of the board. Thank you

[HOF Auto Rookies]

I don't know as to authenticity, but why would you purchase it and then ask for opinions?


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[daves_resale_shop]

Is that on a Hof plaque?

If so, I don't think I've ever seen one...

[brooklynbaseball]

Haven't purchased it, considering jumping in. I have another Ruth signature that received the okay but it's hard to compare a signature on a baseball to a flat imo.

[brooklynbaseball]

It is a plaque

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by brooklynbaseball

Haven't purchased it, considering jumping in. I have another Ruth signature that received the okay but it's hard to compare a signature on a baseball to a flat imo.

Gotcha, thanks for the clarification.


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[jad22]

Very few of those signed plaques are out there. I would compare them carefully with the ones that have been "deemed" real.

[jad22]

http://www.icollector.com/Babe-Ruth-...A-LOA_i8487150

This is an Albertype example rather than the Sepia one.

[Bpm0014]

I have zero expertise in autographs and have trouble with many myself. However, I think I have a gift/knack for Ruth (and Ruth only). It's no good. It's not a horrible forgery, but no good nonetheless.

[w7imel]

Is this the one that just popped up on EBAY? Has a full James Spence LOA. What it comes down to is how combfortable you are with JSA. This Was certified in 1999 and sold at a Mastro auction. Both reputable but just like everything else it all comes down to how confident in the TPA expertise you are. Unless its a personal check or it was signed in front of you thats what it really comes down to. How much do you trust some TPA telling you its "real".

[brooklynbaseball]

That's why I am here

[w7imel]

Originally Posted by brooklynbaseball

That's why I am here

True that!!! I would wait until David Atkaz, or Scott Forrest, Shelly or Richard chime in before upping a bid on a piece that could go into the 10's of thousands dollar range. JMO They helped me with my first Ruth purchase.

[brooklynbaseball]

Yes, I am hopeful that all, or some portion of that group will venture onto the thread. I am DONE with the tpa's and had considered selling my entire collection because of some recent bad experiences, but I can't seem to do it. I've been collecting for over 20 years now and am still holding out hope to be able to pass down my collection to my boys.

[w7imel]

No expert at all but looks good to me. I would also like to see what experts say. I love these high dollar pieces. Cant afford them but love seeing them.

[jad22]

If this is the EBAY item there are no returns. Others sales indicate this would be a 30 thousand dollar item. Its a 1999 LOA, which is before JSA (just Spence). One would think this item would have had the additional PSA certification and a current JSA certificate in order to maximize the sellers profit. Did you try the PSA Quick Opinion to see if it came back good?

[w7imel]

Very good point. If I were looking to maximize my profits I would have JSA, PSA, GAI and any other TPA sign on to it. That is a very good point you make.

[brooklynbaseball]

Again, no "quick opinion" by a tpa would be worth the opening bid to me. The seller is not being very forthcoming with information, being very cryptic in fact. It's looking like something is not right, so i'm bowing out. Still would be interested in the opinions regarding the authenticity though.

[jad22]

Originally Posted by w7imel

Very good point. If I were looking to maximize my profits I would have JSA, PSA, GAI and any other TPA sign on to it. That is a very good point you make.

I was under the impression that the Ruth Albertype that sold at the Weiss auction and maybe one or two more, were the only authentic examples. Others that have been sold recently have been questioned after the fact. It would seem odd that another would be peddled on Ebay for a quarter of the price with dubious paperwork which could be updated for slightly less or maybe just as questionable paperwork.

[Duluth Eskimo]

I would not buy it. It does not appear to flow well to me and with the high profit potential to forge it just seems too good to be true. I may be wrong, but I have to convince myself before I would listen to what others opinions are and I don't believe it is good

[David Atkatz]

I agree with Jason. I don't like it.

[jbhofmann]

"R" seems slow and drawn.

[w7imel]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

I agree with Jason. I don't like it.

Your right David, if there is one thing I have learned from you and others here, is if it looks too good to be true it is because it is too good to be true. If this were authentic at a 30,000 dollar value I think the seller would have had more TPA letters than a 16 year old Spence letter to back it up.