1933 goudey Sports King Ty Cobb Grading Opinions??

[sportscollector]

I have had this card in my collection since 1985 its very special to me as my dad past to me and my grand father past to my dad. It been in the family for a long time I am looking to sell it now and have it listed in the BST forum. If sent it for grading do you think it has a shot a a 7 or 8 grade? I was thinking of selling raw but am considering getting it graded. it does have some edge wear on the back on the top in the center of the card and has some print spots on the cards. the white scratch you see on the jersey is actually a hair that is on my scanner not the card

[Cardboard Junkie]

Beautiful card! I wouldn't hope for more than a 6 in grade. Slight foxing on left border and chipping on top on back, also the gray "pube" on his shoulder might affect the grade. Dave.

[KCRfan1]

Wow. Nice card, and the history with the card is fantastic.

[RCMcKenzie]

As a reference point here is a 33 Goudey that I just received that SGC graded an 80. I'm not an expert on how the companies grade the higher grade vintage cards. I think SGC takes points away for centering, while PSA either labels it o/c or no qualifier. I would grade your card NM, and a great history to the card.goudey33french119.jpg

[rhettyeakley]

I Agree that it probably doesn't grade higher than an 80 due to the little chips on the top border on back but it does display as an 84-86 from the front. Dave, the "pube" comment was classic, I thought the same thing!

[sportscollector]

thanks for the comments guys . what do you think a fair price to ask for this card is? should I sell it raw? or get it graded?

[7nohitter]

$50 is fair...I'll go $55 if you want

[bigfish]

SGC 80 or less IMO. Slight angle cut top and bottom.

[bobbyw8469]

Is that paper loss on the top upper portion of the card? If so, I give it a '6'.

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by sportscollector

thanks for the comments guys . what do you think a fair price to ask for this card is? should I sell it raw? or get it graded?

As much as you want to ask. Not very common in that high of a grade. $3k++

[bobbyw8469]

As much as you want to ask. Not very common in that high of a grade. $3k++

If it grades a '6', then that is highway robbery. A card of that magnitude really needs to be graded. If it grades out a '7', then he makes around $5K. If it grades out a '6', then it is worth between $1,600-$2,000. The registry chasers will want it graded. Only the gamblers will want it raw.

[CardTarget]

I agree. It's a great 6 or a reasonable 7. I don't think you can complain about that card being graded a 7 if he gets lucky. I guess that makes a 6.5 about right.

[sportscollector]

thanks for the comments guys card has been sold

[travrosty]

just sell it raw, dont waste your money on grading.

[Rob D.]

Originally Posted by travrosty

just sell it raw, dont waste your money on grading.

Even though the card in question has been sold, for future reference and collectors who might read this thread down the road, the above statement is simply bad advice.

If a person is not willing to acknowledge that a high-dollar, high-grade card in a slab is more likely to bring a better price than one that is not graded, then that person is either ignorant or prejudiced against third-party grading. Or both.

For the record, if TPGs vanished from the Earth tomorrow, I wouldn't care. Likewise, if they are a part of the hobby in 20 years, I probably won't care. Bottom line: I can take them or leave them.

That being said, when I recently was asked to sell some Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig and other $2,000-$4,000 cards for a longtime friend, I immediately got them graded. To have done otherwise would have been irresponsible on my part in regard to realizing the most money for my friend.

And yes, most collectors know all of the shortcomings of TPGs and many of the errors they have made, so there's no need to for a string of "Can you believe this" posts about mislabeled, overgraded and undergraded cards. Those errors have not done much to hurt the selling prices of slabbed cards, especially high-end examples. They would not be relevant to the topic at hand.

I can understand wanting to take a stand against something you're against, but that should not include giving bad advice simply in an effort to further your agenda. That is exactly what the quoted statement does.

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