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Let us see what Conlon Photo's you have in your collection? I collect 1910's 8x10 Type 1 Photos of Charles Conlon. Here is my Fred Merkle Conlon Type 1 Photo. Andy
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Dizzy Dean. Not labeled but likely a Conlon according to RMY
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Al Bridwell and Donie Bush and maybe this George Moriarty?
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That Bridwell is outstanding. This is going to win the best thread award. I can feel it.
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Here are some of my favorite Type 1 Charles Conlon photos: Home Run Baker, Jesse Burkett, Lefty Grove in rookie year and Bugs Raymond. The Burkett is for you Dr. Frank.
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Charles Conlon captured, developed, handled and signed these:

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Baseball players or hitmen?

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Zach Wheat Conlon.
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Thanks Ben.

Here is a Rogers Hornsby portrait from 1927.
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Here is another of my Conlon Photo
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Here is my Jimmy Johnston Type 1 Conlon.
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Chick Gandil. I think this is a Washington uniform but Conlon has "White Sox" on the back. Interesting:






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Anyone has any large 8x10 1910's Charles
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LOVE that Gandil, Andrew! It's definitely from his stint with Washington, and is from either 1912 or 1913.
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Here are my Mitchell and Suggs from the Cincinnati Reds 1910's Conlon Photos Type 1.
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Came across these two today. Joe McGinnity and Ty Cobb. Sorry for the crappy pics. Just trying to avoid glare from the lights above. McGinnity is maybe 4x6 and the Cobb is closer to 8x10. Too bad it's a little rough around the edges but still a great piece.



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I don’t have many photos but do love the images. Truly art in my opinion. Great images guys.

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Show more of your Conlon photos? Also show if you have any from the 1910’s for sale?
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This is what was sold to me as a Conlon photo. I was interested primarily in the photo since Jim Thorpe is 2nd from the end on the left holding the Belgium flag. John McGraw is out in front. A lot of you probably can identify some of the others. If it is a Conlon then that’s a bonus for sure! Lot 454 of the just ended Huggins and Scott auction has another view from a news service. There is another one of the same event by Underwood & Underwood on eBay right now. It is from the 1917 World Series. I’m not familiar at all with what would identify the picture as taken by Conlon but many of you probably could if there are identifiers that I’m not aware of. Maybe the writing on back is Conlon’s? I’m just taking the work from a fellow collector. If it’s not a Conlon then please accept my apologies for posting the photo. At worst you all will get to see a nice baseball photo? I welcome any insight on whether it could be a Conlon photo or not!

































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This is what was sold to me as a Conlon photo. I was interested primarily in the photo since Jim Thorpe is 2nd from the end on the left holding the Belgium flag. John McGraw is out in front. A lot of you probably can identify some of the others. If it is a Conlon then that’s a bonus for sure! Lot 454 of the just ended Huggins and Scott auction has another view from a news service. There is another one of the same event by Underwood & Underwood on eBay right now. It is from the 1917 World Series. I’m not familiar at all with what would identify the picture as taken by Conlon but many of you probably could if there are identifiers that I’m not aware of. Maybe the writing on back is Conlon’s? I’m just taking the work from a fellow collector. If it’s not a Conlon then please accept my apologies for posting the photo. At worst you all will get to see a nice baseball photo? I welcome any insight on whether it could be a Conlon photo or not!


This is a Conlon photo. The first paragraph is in Conlon’s handwriting. Also, the seller you bought this one from is somewhat knowledgeable in the field.
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In comparing handwriting it looked like Conlon but I’m not familiar at all. I’ve bought from the seller before and the items were what he said so I definitely took him at his word. Thank you for confirming that it is a Conlom!
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That's a great photo. If you get our catalog we dedicated a section to the pioneer lensmen.

Love photos like yours that tell a story. Very cool.
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I sure like it also as I teach U.S. History and it seems to be honoring our Allies during WW1. If anybody knows what game of the World Series they held this event I’d sure like to know. Each person is holding a flag representing our allies.
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Love my Charles Conlon Ed Sweeney Type 1 Photo
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Charles M Conlon Photo of himself. The Master at work on his table!!!
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In 2018 I purchased the Mathewson photo discussed in the linked article from Rmy. Love it very much. One of my favorite pieces. RMY's write up is summarized in the article, basically could very well be a Conlon and one of the earliest Mathewson photos. I love the picture, and am not here to second guess Rhys on his understanding of the photo, which was clearly stated. Just wondering if any of you guys who are well-versed in Conlon's work have an opinion either way. (I also believe the write up from Rhys said there are references to this being by Van Oeyen, but that is probably not accurate.) Would love to submit to Henry for confirmation but I suspect someone has done that at some point and was deemed inconclusive.

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Hi Steve

When this photo was uncovered, it was the only known copy. I believed it was a Conlon, and still do, based purely on circumstantial evidence. It has since been credited to Van Oeyen by PSA but I have no idea how they based that. From what I can say is this; Conlon worked primarily with the Giants (National League) his first couple of years taking pictures of ballplayers. It was not the big business it became 3-4 years later and it was actually a bit of a novelty, a side project for Conlon if you will. I bet he only took 5-10 trips to the ballpark to take baseball pictures. He was also known to be personal friends with Mathewson. Van Oeyen similarly was taking shots of almost exclusively Cleveland players (American League) until it became more financially lucrative to start branching out. It seems VERY unlikely that Van Oeyen would have been in any position to take a photograph of Mathewson since they never played the Giants. Aside from that, it has the look and feel of some of Conlon's work and the pieces (location, subject, photographer, style) all make sense for the work to be Conlon's. It is mounted and it would be interesting to see what is on the back of the photo if the mount is removed. I am not saying 100% this is a Conlon photo, but the odd's are overwhelming it is Conlon as opposed to Van Oeyen.

I have no proof for or against the Conlon/Underwood photos Paul is talking about, but I can see what he is saying in regard to the "eyes" subjects in isolation. His contact prints are superior in quality to those stamped by Underwood. However, when talking about the overall relationship between Underwood and Conlon, the large 8x10 uncropped specimens of known Conlon images bearing the Underwood stamps on the back are of exceptional quality. I believe those ones to be off Conlon negatives. We actually viewed an archive recently with a large box of Underwood paperwork from the 1920's and I was praying for some type of paperwork linking Conlon to Underwood but no luck. It is probably a mystery that will never be solved.
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I can also confirm that the Mathewson photograph in question has never been submitted to PSA. It was discovered by us in an archive, then sold. In 2018 it was re-consigned by the buyer the first time around and never changed hands in-between. The provenance is known all the way back to 1904.

ALSO I have been informed that it was not PSA who determined the photo was a Van Oeyen, it was from another source on a vintage re-strike and I apologize for my memory being wrong on that one.
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Thanks. Amazing photo. One of my favorites.

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When this photo was uncovered, it was the only known copy. I believed it was a Conlon, and still do, based purely on circumstantial evidence. It has since been credited to Van Oeyen by PSA but I have no idea how they based that. From what I can say is this; Conlon worked primarily with the Giants (National League) his first couple of years taking pictures of ballplayers. It was not the big business it became 3-4 years later and it was actually a bit of a novelty, a side project for Conlon if you will. I bet he only took 5-10 trips to the ballpark to take baseball pictures. He was also known to be personal friends with Mathewson. Van Oeyen similarly was taking shots of almost exclusively Cleveland players (American League) until it became more financially lucrative to start branching out. It seems VERY unlikely that Van Oeyen would have been in any position to take a photograph of Mathewson since they never played the Giants. Aside from that, it has the look and feel of some of Conlon's work and the pieces (location, subject, photographer, style) all make sense for the work to be Conlon's. It is mounted and it would be interesting to see what is on the back of the photo if the mount is removed. I am not saying 100% this is a Conlon photo, but the odd's are overwhelming it is Conlon as opposed to Van Oeyen.

I have no proof for or against the Conlon/Underwood photos Paul is talking about, but I can see what he is saying in regard to the "eyes" subjects in isolation. His contact prints are superior in quality to those stamped by Underwood. However, when talking about the overall relationship between Underwood and Conlon, the large 8x10 uncropped specimens of known Conlon images bearing the Underwood stamps on the back are of exceptional quality. I believe those ones to be off Conlon negatives. We actually viewed an archive recently with a large box of Underwood paperwork from the 1920's and I was praying for some type of paperwork linking Conlon to Underwood but no luck. It is probably a mystery that will never be solved.
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that is a MAGNIFICENT photo of Fred Clarke. Two questions: where has it been published? and what is going on with his left hand?
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that is a MAGNIFICENT photo of Fred Clarke. Two questions: where has it been published? and what is going on with his left hand?

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Hi Mark.

Thanks for the compliments. I really liked the photo. Which is one of a handful that I’ve ever owned. I’m not sure where it was published. Anyway I could find that out? And his hand is leathery for sure. He spent a lot of time in the sun in left field.

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Old 02-27-2020, 09:00 PM
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Here are seven Conlon type 1s from 1919.
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Just picked up this Jimmy Lavender Conlon Photo Type 1 for my collection.
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