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I think Goose Gossage was 54. And Guidry was 49. And of course should add Reggie at 44.
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Wasn't Orel Hersheiser 55?
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Here are some from me:

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I can't hear the calls for Ted Williams and Unitas from the sound of Championship rings clanging.
Howe vs. Williams is an interesting debate. Unitas and Yzerman not as much. BTW, Johnny U won three rings.
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1 Ozzie Smith. Also, I think, Lou Whitaker.
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Yogi deserves as much consideration as Yaz and Stargell at #8. Kobe Bryant should probably be included with that number also.
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8 Berra, Ripken, Joe Morgan.
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11 Barry Larkin
12 Alomar, also Boggs as a Yankee
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Hah. It was fine with me when he left town, never liked him. As I used to say, most overrated .350 hitter in history.
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Howe vs. Williams is an interesting debate. Unitas and Yzerman not as much. BTW, Johnny U won three rings.
Howe vs Ted is interesting, as far as hearing over any clinking, someone once said " Ted Williams lived the life that John Wayne dreamed about". Overall, I think the no doubts are #`s 3, 7, 13, 23, 42, 99, with 9 and 4 being the biggest tossups off the top of my head. Also, 33 between Bird and Alcindor also very close. Fun thread !!
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At the risk of being booted, some more random ones from memory.
5 Brooks Robinson, Pujols and Bench
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Thats a good question. And speaking of we are only one year away from the Connor McDavid draft. The next in line to Gretzky-Lemieux-Lindros-Crosby. He's spoken in that same breath which is alot of pressure.
There is a story about Orr, who knows if it's true, that the Bruins sent someone to scout him when he was 12. The guy reports back to management and says, he could play in the NHL. Management is like, well yeah tell us something we don't know, until the scout explains: "I mean right now."

I remember the hype about Lindros, he had some extremely overprinted RC that was nevertheless sky high for a while.
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Hey guys, am I the 1st one here to mention "Broadway Joe"....tis very puzzling

12...... Joe Namath

And, one of Joe's great Receivers......

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Spot on about him being overrated, but I think you misunderstand me. I hate the Red Sox and love the Yankees. Getting that guy just wasn't right, and diminished the Yankee brand IMO. Some might say the same for Clemens, but at least he had been booted to Toronto first.
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48 rick rueuschel
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[QUOTE=tedzan;1294715]9...... Joe DiMaggio

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When you're universally recognized as the greatest player in the history of your sport, you should get a mention here. Pele. #10.
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#84- Randy Moss in his prime Minnesota years... man I hated him and Culpepper
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19 is definitely Steve Yzerman.

5 goes to Nick Lidstrom. Brooks and Joe D were awesome, no question, but Lidstrom was better.
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8 - Cal Ripken, Jr.
19 - John Unitas
21 - Roberto Clemente
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24 - Willie Mays
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I'll see your Randy Moss and raise you a Sterling Sharpe for #84.

It's too bad Sharpe had to retire. He was on his way to becoming one of the greatest receivers to ever play the game. 595 catches, 8,134 yards, 65 touchdown receptions before age 30...and the season after he had to retire Favre became NFL MVP. The three years he did play with Favre, he average 105 catches, 1,285 yards and 14 touchdowns. Imagine him with Favre at an elite level.
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19 is definitely Steve Yzerman.

5 goes to Nick Lidstrom. Brooks and Joe D were awesome, no question, but Lidstrom was better.
Lidstrom was a spectacular defenceman, maybe the best ever-and it pains me to say that as a Milwaukeean who is supposed to hate all Detroit sports teams. But DiMaggio is one of the ten greatest hitters in the game's history. And as great as Lidstrom was, in my humble opinion, nothing he ever did surpassed DiMaggio's 56 game hitting streak.

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If he stayed healthy it might be a valid argument. But Randy Moss nearly doubled all of the numbers you listed, luckily he played with Brady towards the end. I respect your opinion Bill but I dont think there is much of an argument to be made at 84. Maybe the board will chime in.
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What # was Secretariat? Yeah, I know... But there are always problems with these multi-sport polls.
#2. Imagine if a horse beat Jeter.
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Unfortunately horses dont get assigned numbers, if they did I would argue for Secretariat
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If he stayed healthy it might be a valid argument. But Randy Moss nearly doubled all of the numbers you listed, luckily he played with Brady towards the end. I respect your opinion Bill but I dont think there is much of an argument to be made at 84. Maybe the board will chime in.
Sebastian, yes, Moss did beat his career numbers handily. And in their first seven years, Sharpe had 21 more catches, but 1,008 fewer yards and 17 fewer touchdowns.

But, Moss started with Randall Cunningham throwing him the ball. Then he had Daunte Culpepper. And he had Robert Smith then Michael Bennett in the backfield, and Cris Carter on the other side of the field. Then later he had some guy named Tom Brady throwing him the ball. Sharpe had Favre the gunslinger before he settled down, and became NFL MVP.

Sharpe had nobody else on offense. He had Randy Wright and Anthony Dilweg throwing him the ball when Don Majkowski wasn't healthy, which outside of 1989 was all the time. Then he had Mike Tomczak throwing him the ball. And finally Favre.

Sharpe played from 1988 to 1994. In that time, how many 1,000 yard running backs did Green Bay have?

Zero.

How many 1,000 yard wide receivers or tight ends did Sharpe have in the same offense while playing in Green Bay?

Zero.

So, I ask you. Who was more impressive? Moss, who was surrounded by Pro Bowlers on offense, or Sharpe, who had no help at all?

Anybody who played Green Bay knew the ball was going to Sharpe. And even when they double teamed him, they couldn't stop him. His last three years, Sharpe had 314 receptions for 3,854 yards and 42 TDs.

If you ask me, with all respect for Moss, who was a great football player, Sharpe was unstoppable.
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And by the way, Moss never led the NFL in receptions or yardage. Nor did he achieve the receiving triple crown, leading the NFL in receptions, yards and TDs. Sharpe led the NFL in receptions three times, setting the NFL record for receptions twice in back to back seasons.

Moss played 14 years. He was a Pro Bowler six times, and first team All Pro four times.

Sharpe played 7 years. He was a Pro Bowler five times, and first team All Pro three times.

In half the years, Sharpe had only one fewer Pro Bowl nod, and one fewer first team All Pro nod. And that's with Moss having Cunningham, Culpepper and Tom Brady throwing him the ball.

So, I don't think it's as cut and dry as it might appear at first, Sebastian.
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Your probably right Bill, I dont have all the stats to back me up... it was just my opinion.
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