Set with most HOFers???

[D.P.Johnson]

Anybody know which post war set contains the most HOF players???

[arexcrooke]

I'm thinking 57 or 58?

Originally Posted by D.P.Johnson

Anybody know which post war set contains the most HOF players???

[Eric1977]

1971 I believe. Well over 40.

[D.P.Johnson]

Originally Posted by arexcrooke

I'm thinking 57 or 58?

Thanks. Your '56 set has thirty-two???

[KCRfan1]

The 1973 set has 37 or 38 I believe. Not sure any set from the 50' s or 60's will have more. I don't think any set has 40 or more.

[D.P.Johnson]

Originally Posted by Eric1977

1971 I believe. Well over 40.

Thank you.

Originally Posted by KCRfan1

The 1973 set has 37 or 38 I believe. Not sure any set from the 50' s or 60's will have more. I don't think any set has 40 or more.

Thank you.

[D.P.Johnson]

It would seem "logical" that most sets would be somewhat equal, but there's got to be ONE that somehow got lucky and tops the rest...Hmmm...

[JollyElm]

It all depends on how you specifically define the question. The 1973 Topps set (and 1976 as well) has all of those throwback cards featuring Cobb, Gehrig, Ruth, etc. To me, that's just cheating!!! Ha ha.

[D.P.Johnson]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

It all depends on how you specifically define the question. The 1973 Topps set (and 1976 as well) has all of those throwback cards featuring Cobb, Gehrig, Ruth, etc. To me, that's just cheating!!! Ha ha.

Good point.
I was thinking about "regular" issued sets without including the "throwback" type cards. Also, not considering a "Callahan" type set or something specifically oriented toward HOF players...

[Eric1977]

20 Reggie Jackson of, A's
26 Bert Blyleven p, Twins
30 Phil Niekro p, Braves
45 Jim 'Catfish' Hunter p, A's
50 Willie McCovey 1b, Giants
55 Steve Carlton p, Cardinals
91 Bob Lemon mgr, Royals
110 Bill Mazeroski 2b, Pirates
140 Gaylord Perry p, Giants
160 Tom Seaver p, Mets
180 Al Kaline of, Tigers
210 Rod Carew 2b, Twins
220 Ron Santo 3b, Cubs
230 Willie Stargell of, Pirates
239 Red Schoendienst mgr, Cardinals
248 Hoyt Wilhelm p, Cubs
250 Johnny Bench c, Reds
264 Joe Morgan 2b, Astros
280 Fergie Jenkins p, Cubs
300 Brooks Robinson 3b, Orioles
325 Juan Marichal p, Giants
350 Billy Williams of, Cubs
361 Don Sutton p, Dodgers
370 Joe Torre 3b, Cardinals
380 Ted Williams mgr, Senators
384 Rollie Fingers p, A's
400 Hank Aaron of, Braves
450 Bob Gibson p, Cardinals
477 Earl Weaver mgr, Orioles
513 Nolan Ryan p, Mets
525 Ernie Banks 1b, Cubs
530 Carl Yastrzemski of, Red Sox
550 Harmon Killebrew 1b, Twins
567 Walter Alston mgr, Dodgers
570 Jim Palmer p, Orioles
574 Jim Bunning p, Phillies
580 Tony Perez 3b, Reds
600 Willie Mays of, Giants
605 Orlando Cepeda 1b, Braves
609 Leo Durocher mgr, Cubs
625 Lou Brock of, Cardinals
630 Roberto Clemente of, Pirates
640 Frank Robinson of, Orioles
688 Sparky Anderson mgr, Reds
714 Dick Williams mgr, A's
740 Luis Aparicio ss, Red Sox

[the 'stache]

The 1975 Topps set has 36, not including any highlight cards, MVP cards, flashback cards, etc.

rollie fingers
bert blyleven
ron santo
brooks robinson
fergie jenkins
dave winfield
mike schmidt
carlton fisk
willie stargell
phil niekro
bob gibson
joe morgan
steve carlton
don sutton
robin yount
george brett
jim hunter
johnny bench
carl yastrzemski
reggie jackson
frank robinson
jim palmer
tom seaver
willie mccovey
nolan ryan
gaylord perry
lou brock
billy williams
rich gossage
tony perez
joe torre
rod carew
gary carter
jim rice
harmon killebrew
hank aaron

[D.P.Johnson]

1971 appears to be the winner......

[DBesse27]

Originally Posted by D.P.Johnson

1971 appears to be the winner......

That HOFer count coupled with the condition sensitivity makes it an awesome set to collect.

[D.P.Johnson]

Originally Posted by DBesse27

That HOFer count coupled with the condition sensitivity makes it an awesome set to collect.

Can't argue with that!
The first cards I bought as a kid were 1971-72. When the "older" neighborhood kids showed me their 68's, I remember thinking, "Man, those are some OLD cards"......

[Peter_Spaeth]

65 Topps has 42 if you count managers.

[D.P.Johnson]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

65 Topps has 42 if you count managers.

Managers count.
But, it looks like 1971 still has the most.
I'm guessing the 1933 Goudey set has the most HOFers for pre-war???

[JollyElm]

Not so fast, people! 1972 also has 46 in my count.
You lose Jim Bunning and Mr. Cub, but you gain Carlton Fisk and Tony LaRussa:

Al Kaline
Bert Blyleven
Bill Mazeroski
Billy Williams
Bob Gibson
Bob Lemon
Brooks Robinson
Carl Yastrzemski
Carlton Fisk
Dick Williams
Don Sutton
Earl Weaver
Fergie Jenkins
Frank Robinson
Gaylord Perry
Hank Aaron
Harmon Killebrew
Hoyt Wilhelm
Jim Hunter
Jim Palmer
Joe Morgan
Joe Torre
Johnny Bench
Juan Marichal
Leo Durocher
Lou Brock
Luis Aparicio
Nolan Ryan
Orlando Cepeda
Phil Niekro
Red Schoendienst
Reggie Jackson
Roberto Clemente
Rod Carew
Rollie Fingers
Ron Santo
Sparky Anderson
Steve Carlton
Ted Williams
Tom Seaver
Tony LaRussa
Tony Perez
Walter Alston
Willie Mays
Willie McCovey
Willie Stargell

[arexcrooke]

Wow on 1971! That's a ton of HoFers!
Are any of them highly valuable in say PSA 5-7? I imagine the Ryan and the Munson maybe?
This might be a new set I start on sooner rather than later

[Peter_Spaeth]

1969 Topps has 48
And I missed 2 damn it

[D.P.Johnson]

Now 1969 appears to be the winner......

[egri]

By most, do you mean the highest number, or highest percentage?

[Peter_Spaeth]

1975 appears to have 50. Will update soon.

No, they are counting past MVP cards here sorry.

[Peter_Spaeth]

If you count the coaching pics included on the manager cards 1973 Topps has 51.

[D.P.Johnson]

Originally Posted by egri

By most, do you mean the highest number, or highest percentage?

Well....I was thinking highest number, but I'd be interested in the highest percentage also......

[D.P.Johnson]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If you count the coaching pics included on the manager cards 1973 Topps has 51.

You're killing me smalls...LOL...

1973 is now officially the winner (until the next post of course......)...

[the 'stache]

1975 Topps up to 43 with managers:

walt alston, dodgers
earl weaver, orioles
dick williams, angels
red schoendienst, cardinals
frank robinson, indians
yogi berra, mets
sparky anderson, reds

We're not including MVP cards, but if you are including highlight cards:

hank aaron
lou brock
bob gibson
al kaline
nolan ryan x 2

That's 49.

[JollyElm]

If people are doubling up on HOF'ers from the same set, then 1972 also has a slew of 'In Action,' 'Boyhood Photos of the Stars' and 'Traded' cards to add to the tally…so where does it end??

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

If people are doubling up on HOF'ers from the same set, then 1972 also has a slew of 'In Action,' 'Boyhood Photos of the Stars' and 'Traded' cards to add to the tally…so where does it end??

That's the real question. With somebody like Frank Robinson in the '75 set, he truly has two cards, a regular player card where he's listed as a DH, and a manager card.

But beyond those, where does it stop? Highlight cards? MVP cards? World Series recap cards? An outline as to what, specifically, is acceptable, would help make this a much easier exercise.

[D.P.Johnson]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

If people are doubling up on HOF'ers from the same set, then 1972 also has a slew of 'In Action,' 'Boyhood Photos of the Stars' and 'Traded' cards to add to the tally…so where does it end??

Another good point.
My feeling, is that if somehow a future HOFer ended up on more than one card in any particular set than I would count it. For example, the Hank Aaron and the Hank Aaron In Action cards would count as two. Now, a 1974 set with a throwback type of card featuring Cy Young (or someone like that) probably wouldn't count.

[D.P.Johnson]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

That's the real question. With somebody like Frank Robinson in the '75 set, he truly has two cards, a regular player card where he's listed as a DH, and a manager card.

But beyond those, where does it stop? Highlight cards? MVP cards? World Series recap cards? An outline as to what, specifically, is acceptable, would help make this a much easier exercise.

IMHO, the Frank Robinson example would count as two cards. The highlight cards could count if it was a highlight of a future HOFer. An MVP card would count if the MVP later turned out to be a HOFer. Same goes with the World Series Recap cards. I would also say that if somehow a HOF player ended up on a Team card, but didn't have their own individual card in the set, this would count as an additional card...

[almostdone]

Originally Posted by D.P.Johnson

Well....I was thinking highest number, but I'd be interested in the highest percentage also......

I know this one. 1954 Red Heart has 33 cards in the set with 11 Hofers. That's an incredible 1 out of 3.

1963 Fleer has 66 cards with 11 Hofers. 1 out of 6. Another high ratio.

I think 1956 Topps has the highest ratio of any regular Topps. 34 Hofers with 340 cards. 1 out of 10.

This gives me another reason to show my 54 Red Heart. The Hofers represented are as follows:

Richie Ashburn
Mickey Mantle
Stan Musial
Warren Spahn
Red Schoendienst
Ralph Kiner
Duke Snider
Bob Lemon
Enos Slaughter
George Kell
Nellie Fox

Drew

[Peter_Spaeth]

If you are going to count MVP and All Star cards 61 Topps or 62 Topps may come out ahead. I would suggest the most meaningful comparison would be limited to base cards of players and managers.

[jfkheat]

All of the 50s set had less than 35. Below is a list of how many were in each set from 1960 to 1975. After 1975 the number drops. These numbers are what PSA has for the HOF sets.
James

1960: 36
1961: 36
1962: 40
1963: 36
1964: 38
1965: 40
1966: 38
1967: 41
1968: 44
1969: 43
1970: 43
1971: 46
1972: 46
1973: 48
1974: 42
1975: 36

[David W]

I wonder if some of the late 80's, early 90's sets won't approach the 70's sets.

1987 Topps has 32 right now, without the following, some of whom have gathered significant support in the past, and some denied due to PED's.


Roger Clemens
Lee Smith
Tim Raines
Steve Garvey
Barry Bonds
Mark McGwire
Dale Murphy
Ted Simmons
Alan Trammel
Jack Morris
Rafael Palmeiro

I didn't check any other sets

[D.P.Johnson]

Originally Posted by jfkheat

All of the 50s set had less than 35. Below is a list of how many were in each set from 1960 to 1975. After 1975 the number drops. These numbers are what PSA has for the HOF sets.
James

1960: 36
1961: 36
1962: 40
1963: 36
1964: 38
1965: 40
1966: 38
1967: 41
1968: 44
1969: 43
1970: 43
1971: 46
1972: 46
1973: 48
1974: 42
1975: 36

Thank you!

[skil55voy]

1962 Post Cereal Set has 33 Hall of Famers of 200. Pretty good ratio. This includes Dick Williams who was a player then. (HOF Manager) and Tony Kubek as a player (HOF Broadcaster)

[SMPEP]

How about some of the Conlons sets?

1991 has HOFers on cards 1-67 for example.

[rexmundi71]

Originally Posted by jfkheat

All of the 50s set had less than 35. Below is a list of how many were in each set from 1960 to 1975. After 1975 the number drops. These numbers are what PSA has for the HOF sets.
James

1960: 36
1961: 36
1962: 40
1963: 36
1964: 38
1965: 40
1966: 38
1967: 41
1968: 44
1969: 43
1970: 43
1971: 46
1972: 46
1973: 48
1974: 42
1975: 36

If you broaden the definition of HOF, then 1972 technically has 48 Hall of Fame cards in it, because there is also #623 Cy Young Award and #626 Babe Ruth Award. I cannot speak for the other sets listed, my specialty is 1972.

[JollyElm]

And the '72 Cubs team card includes Ernie Banks' head, so there's another one.

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by jfkheat

All of the 50s set had less than 35. Below is a list of how many were in each set from 1960 to 1975. After 1975 the number drops. These numbers are what PSA has for the HOF sets.
James

1960: 36
1961: 36
1962: 40
1963: 36
1964: 38
1965: 40
1966: 38
1967: 41
1968: 44
1969: 43
1970: 43
1971: 46
1972: 46
1973: 48
1974: 42
1975: 36

Any idea if the 1962 total includes the 'Babe Ruth Special' cards? Besides the Bambino, they also picture HOF'ers Miller Huggins, Jacob Ruppert and a first baseman some of us have heard of, Lou Gehrig.

[ajquigs]

Percentage-wise the '34-36 Diamond Stars set has 33% ... 32 HOFers of 96 cards.
Cards 97 to 108 depict players included in the first 96, thus I think the 32/96 figure is the best representation of the HOFer ratio; this certainly could be debated.
Of the 12 high number duplicates, five are HOFers.

[arexcrooke]

Decided to start this set with the intention of getting it in the PSA 6-7 range. Might just decide to do the straight 7 route.
Got some nice ones in hand the other day and man those are sharp cards when they are in higher grade!

Originally Posted by Eric1977

20 Reggie Jackson of, A's
26 Bert Blyleven p, Twins
30 Phil Niekro p, Braves
45 Jim 'Catfish' Hunter p, A's
50 Willie McCovey 1b, Giants
55 Steve Carlton p, Cardinals
91 Bob Lemon mgr, Royals
110 Bill Mazeroski 2b, Pirates
140 Gaylord Perry p, Giants
160 Tom Seaver p, Mets
180 Al Kaline of, Tigers
210 Rod Carew 2b, Twins
220 Ron Santo 3b, Cubs
230 Willie Stargell of, Pirates
239 Red Schoendienst mgr, Cardinals
248 Hoyt Wilhelm p, Cubs
250 Johnny Bench c, Reds
264 Joe Morgan 2b, Astros
280 Fergie Jenkins p, Cubs
300 Brooks Robinson 3b, Orioles
325 Juan Marichal p, Giants
350 Billy Williams of, Cubs
361 Don Sutton p, Dodgers
370 Joe Torre 3b, Cardinals
380 Ted Williams mgr, Senators
384 Rollie Fingers p, A's
400 Hank Aaron of, Braves
450 Bob Gibson p, Cardinals
477 Earl Weaver mgr, Orioles
513 Nolan Ryan p, Mets
525 Ernie Banks 1b, Cubs
530 Carl Yastrzemski of, Red Sox
550 Harmon Killebrew 1b, Twins
567 Walter Alston mgr, Dodgers
570 Jim Palmer p, Orioles
574 Jim Bunning p, Phillies
580 Tony Perez 3b, Reds
600 Willie Mays of, Giants
605 Orlando Cepeda 1b, Braves
609 Leo Durocher mgr, Cubs
625 Lou Brock of, Cardinals
630 Roberto Clemente of, Pirates
640 Frank Robinson of, Orioles
688 Sparky Anderson mgr, Reds
714 Dick Williams mgr, A's
740 Luis Aparicio ss, Red Sox