PWCC I want to bid but.... I just can't!

[danmckee]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1958-Topps-P...53.m1431.l2649

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1958-Topps-P...53.m1431.l2649

Look at the percentages of bids of the top 3 bidders of each of these auctions with this seller.....

NO THANKS!

[Fistner10]

I'm with ya, will never do it. Especially out of principle

[vintagetoppsguy]

It's been a couple weeks since we've had a PWCC thread. I guess we were overdue

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

It's been a couple weeks since we've had a PWCC thread. I guess we were overdue

LOL,but it has been a very long time since we had a Probstein thread. Rick should send PWCC a very nicely worded thank you card. He should send Betsy a huge check for all her help. The BS letter PWCC posted all over the net and Betsy making BS excuses has taken all the heat off Rick.

[Kenny Cole]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

It's been a couple weeks since we've had a PWCC thread. I guess we were overdue

The very fact that the issue comes up over and over again pretty much emphasizes the problem IMO.

[Snapolit1]

80% of my bids on eBay are prob with PWCC. I just don't see the higher grade cards on eBay very often I am looking for. Except the ones that are BINs in the stratosphere. I've bought Gehrig and Ruth's with PWCC at mid grade higher than 1s and As that have been sitting for years with bloated BINs.
I guess I am part of the problem.

[mantlefan]

Feel the Force, Dan. Don't do it!

[irv]

The 26 bid retraction guy, which is supposedly against PWCC rules, won this Mantle card.
Take a look at his bidding percentage as well. I wonder if any money will be exchanging hands for this card?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-M...p2047675.l2557

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Forget PWCC, I HATE the fact that this printing issue has been legitimized. Almost as bad as the Gene Bakep.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

80% of my bids on eBay are prob with PWCC. I just don't see the higher grade cards on eBay very often I am looking for. Except the ones that are BINs in the stratosphere. I've bought Gehrig and Ruth's with PWCC at mid grade higher than 1s and As that have been sitting for years with bloated BINs.
I guess I am part of the problem.

Stuff trumps all, eh?

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Stuff trumps all, eh?

If I need a card and can get it for what I think is a good price, why do I care one whit what other people's motives are?

I assume there is just as much if not more fraud in most AH auctions. The only difference is you have a bit more transparency in eBay auctions.

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

80% of my bids on eBay are prob with PWCC. I just don't see the higher grade cards on eBay very often I am looking for. Except the ones that are BINs in the stratosphere. I've bought Gehrig and Ruth's with PWCC at mid grade higher than 1s and As that have been sitting for years with bloated BINs.
I guess I am part of the problem.

+++ Me too. In my world, the percentage bid thing is fake news. Means nothing. Focus on retractions, that what is killing e-bay.

I think some folks think we have endless hours to search e-bay for those half of one percent BINS that are priced within reason. Not happening.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by danmckee

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1958-Topps-P...53.m1431.l2649

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1958-Topps-P...53.m1431.l2649

Look at the percentages of bids of the top 3 bidders of each of these auctions with this seller.....

NO THANKS!

Just bidding with a few sellers doesn't bother me as much as the retractions. On these 2 shown I don't see a big problem. For the record I won 3 cards from PWCC a few days ago and all were well below my max snipe amounts. They weren't 30k cards though and no one was "protecting" them the way some auctions look to be manipulated.