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Old 08-09-2012, 12:51 PM
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Is there a master list floating around out there for errors and variations on Topps sets pre-1995 and other vintage sets pre-1980? Perhaps a link to a spreadsheet online? I've noticed an article here and an article there on some variations that aren't listed in Beckett or SCD but wondered if it was all compiled by someone in one place already. Thank you!

p.s. Not trying to start a debate on this thread about the difference between a print flaw and a variation.
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Default Variation, Errors, Oddities, Variants and Print Dots

Once you get beyond Becketts, SCD and the Registry, the debate you want to avoid about variations versus print defects is unavoidable.

Dick Gilkison put out a publication in 1989 called The Baseball Variation Book, which he updated through 1995. It is very good. I have seen other on-line lists and on this board , Richard ( brightair) has a good list , as does Doug Goodman, also here. I also have one.

I have reviewed all of them, and they all tend to have the basic catalog regulars and many of the well known not in the catalog items. After that they vary quite a bit because everyone has a slightly different definition of what constitutes a variation, or variant, or print defect, or an error. or a glorified print dot that should be considered part of a master set, or just collectible on it's own merit
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p.s. Not trying to start a debate on this thread about the difference between a print flaw and a variation.
There isn't really a debate to be had, the differences are quite often a matter of personal taste. Collect what makes you happy, and you will always be right.

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I don't think this "debate" makes Doug happy. He is haunted by print dots and variants and such


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Yes, haunted.

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you guys are too much, lol
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Yes Doug, but that's just the Ken Hubbs Memorial card
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Yes Doug, but that's just the Ken Hubbs Memorial card
Which one? His '64T or his '66T #447? The latter has to be one of Topps' all time biggest goofs. Hubbs died two years earlier, yet they show him as a current Cubbie, but ID'd as Dick Ellsworth. Anyone know if there was ever an explanation from the Topps poobahs, or did they just let it slide thinking no one would notice?
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