March Pick-Ups

[HOF Yankees]

some 1968's for my yankees team set and a casey stengel

[Fleenor]

Picked up my first Johnston Cookies panel, freed it from it's prison.

[ALR-bishop]

Great cards Jake. Peterson looks lonely without Kekich Iguess he has to wait until 69

[sflayank]

picked up[ this little beauty

[toppcat]

Geez Larry-quite the pedestrian Mantle item you have there!

My two pickups so far:

[MilBraves]

Nice pick up Fleenor. I won this upgrade from the same seller's auction.

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Picked this Hank up too.

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[39special]

Originally Posted by toppcat

Geez Larry-quite the pedestrian Mantle item you have there!

My two pickups so far:

Nice '52 Dodgers!!

[HOF Yankees]

great stuff guys and girls

[ALR-bishop]

Larry--what is your best judgement as to whether these were really Topps send away premiums. When I bought mine in a recent auction they noted it was thought to be a Topps item, and Bob Lemke has it listed that way in the SCD Standard Catalog, but I still have not seen a Topps pack/wrapper that offers it..

It's nice you have the tab. ( You have it on the other one you have too, right ?) Mine is in good shape but the tab is gone.

[sflayank]

hi al
yes my other one has the tab also
if i remember correctly lemke said he remembers that someone showed him something that said what it was and thats how it got in the book...also i believe one of the auction houses told me that he once had a stack of the wrappers advertising the piece...so who knows...you would think it would show up somewhere....bazooka joe comic....comic book...magazine ad
larry

[Big Six]

Just picked up the first of the "Big 3" rookies for my 1954 Topps set...my set consists of cards PSA 7 or better and this card will likely earn a technical grade of only a 4 due to a small surface wrinkle on the back lower corner (not visible on front). But the price was right and I'm thrilled to add it to my collection! While I could always upgrade in the future, I'm not so sure I NEED to...you raw card collectors may be on to something!!! Big thanks to Leerob538 on this one...

[David W]

Some more all time Cardinals..... Habla Espanol????

[CharleyBrown]

1954 Topps Grey Back harpooned and soon off to PSA for grading and inclusion into my Jackie Robinson master set...



to go along with

[Volod]

Originally Posted by David W

Some more all time Cardinals..... Habla Espanol????

Ernie would have to be one of the all-time greats for his great contribution to Cards history in bringing Lou Brock to St. Lou.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Volod

Ernie would have to be one of the all-time greats for his great contribution to Cards history in bringing Lou Brock to St. Lou.

No, that honor belongs to John Holland.

[CW]

I had been waiting and searching for a LONG time for a nice copy of this card. This card fit the bill perfectly. Let's just say I was not going to lose this eBay auction...

[David W]

Originally Posted by Volod

Ernie would have to be one of the all-time greats for his great contribution to Cards history in bringing Lou Brock to St. Lou.

Ernie actually ranks 29th all time in career wins by a Cardinal starting pitcher with 70.......

I'm currently collecting the top 15 position players and the top 50 starting pitchers for the Cardinals since 1900.....

[mintacular]

I really hope you get bored with this card and resell at it on eBay, would love a shot at it. But I don't think that will happen Great "5"

[CW]

Thanks, Patrick. Heck, if I can remember this thread I will offer it to you privately before putting it up on eBay, although that could be a few years from now.

[sox1903wschamp]

Love this card for my raw set.

[ALR-bishop]

That is a great card Michael

[Volod]

Originally Posted by David W

Ernie actually ranks 29th all time in career wins by a Cardinal starting pitcher with 70.......

I'm currently collecting the top 15 position players and the top 50 starting pitchers for the Cardinals since 1900.....

But, as Cliff pointed out, those 70 wins impressed the stuff out of John Holland.

Always wondered what the Cubs would have done 1967-72 if that trade had not happened.

[ALR-bishop]

...still behind the Cardinals as usual and as it should be

[David W]

Originally Posted by Volod

But, as Cliff pointed out, those 70 wins impressed the stuff out of John Holland.

Always wondered what the Cubs would have done 1967-72 if that trade had not happened.

The Cubbies did however kind of turn the tables with the Altman for Larry Jackson trade.

But with Santo, Banks, Williams, Jenkins to go with Hundley, Beckert, Kessinger, Hands, Holtzman, Pappas, Monday, Abernathy, you would think they blunder into something in that time frame.

[sox1903wschamp]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

That is a great card Michael

Thanks Al

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

...still behind the Cardinals as usual and as it should be

Why did I have to be born in a northern suburb of Chicago and be cursed with being a Cubs fan for life ...

[Volod]

Originally Posted by David W

The Cubbies did however kind of turn the tables with the Altman for Larry Jackson trade.

But with Santo, Banks, Williams, Jenkins to go with Hundley, Beckert, Kessinger, Hands, Holtzman, Pappas, Monday, Abernathy, you would think they blunder into something in that time frame.

...add Brock to that group and how do they go into that flop in the last weeks of the '69 season? I don't think the Mets would have caught them. And if you subtract Lou from the '67 and '68 Cards - Al's POV notwithstanding - maybe it's not enough to get the young Cubs there, but would the Cards have enough to get past the Dodgers or Pirates, I wonder. Nice sarcastic rub-in with the Altman-Jackson trade comparison. As a lifelong Cubs fan by choice, not birth, it's even worse for me than for Cliff. Probably shouldn't have dredged up these ancient painful memories.

[ALR-bishop]

Agree he may have been the tipping point in 64, 67 and 68. Getting Cepeda was also a factor


The Brock deal helped make up for the Cardinals later trading Carlton for Rick Wise

[David W]

Growing up in Central Ill in the 70's, it was half and half Cubs vs Cards.

My most painful summer was 78 going 3 and 15 vs the Cubs, and having to hear it from my Cub fan friends all year.

[theseeker]

The Cubs desperately were looking for a solution to their only weakness, CF, throughout the '69 season. They traded Brock because they felt the only position he could play was LF, manned by sweet swinging Billy Williams.

Typical shortsighted Cubbie thinking. As Bill James would later show, Brock's offensive contributions, as one of the games greatest leadoff hitters, in that stacked lineup would have more than made up for his notoriously weak arm, while playing CF. Besides Williams could have moved to 1B with Brock sliding over to LF after Banks retired.

Yet, the '69 season is still looked upon with fondness for Cubs fans despite the August collapse. Growing up in suburban Chicago, that season is my first sports memory. I've managed to collect a insane hoard of memorabilia from that season since then-- the Jewel picture set, mugs, 8x10 autos........everything except for those cheesy facsimile autograghed balls they sold at Wrigley Field. I bought several on Ebay being sold as 1969 balls that ended up being 1967, 1970, 1971

[Robextend]

[ALR-bishop]

Rob---great Aaron. I love that set

David...forget the 70s and 90s...concentrate on 64/67/68/82/85/87/04/06 and 11...and let Cubs fans contemplate 1908

[Volod]

Originally Posted by theseeker

The Cubs desperately were looking for a solution to their only weakness, CF, throughout the '69 season. They traded Brock because they felt the only position he could play was LF, manned by sweet swinging Billy Williams.

Typical shortsighted Cubbie thinking. As Bill James would later show, Brock's offensive contributions, as one of the games greatest leadoff hitters, in that stacked lineup would have more than made up for his notoriously weak arm, while playing CF. Besides Williams could have moved to 1B with Brock sliding over to LF after Banks retired.

Yet, the '69 season is still looked upon with fondness for Cubs fans despite the August collapse. Growing up in suburban Chicago, that season is my first sports memory. I've managed to collect a insane hoard of memorabilia from that season since then-- the Jewel picture set, mugs, 8x10 autos........everything except for those cheesy facsimile autograghed balls they sold at Wrigley Field. I bought several on Ebay being sold as 1969 balls that ended up being 1967, 1970, 1971

Right, still have poignant memories of that '69 folderoo season. As a college student in Indiana and a Cubs fan since they hired Durocher, was waiting for WS ticks to be published so i could drive up and watch a couple games in Wrigley. Man, was i bummed when they collapsed - especially when the gd Mets jumped over the corpse. I believe Brock nursed a grudge against the Cubs, maybe thought they didn't give him a good chance. Recall him during '69 sneering at them and blasting Santo for that "bush-league" trick he had of clicking his heels after a Cubs win.

[David W]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Rob---great Aaron. I love that set

David...forget the 70s and 90s...concentrate on 64/67/68/82/85/87/04/06 and 11...and let Cubs fans contemplate 1908

LOL. You are correct. Cubs WS winners are kind of like the famous poem by Longfellow - The midnight ride of Paul Revere -

To quote - Listen my children and you shall hear
Of the midnight ride of Paul Revere,
On the eighteenth of April, in Seventy-five;
Hardly a man is now alive
Who remembers that famous day and year.

The Cub version - Listen my children and appreciate,
Of the Cubs winning in 19 hundred and eight.
In that legendary pennant drive,
Hardly a man is now alive
Who remembers that famous day and year.

Go Redbirds.....

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Volod

Right, still have poignant memories of that '69 folderoo season. As a college student in Indiana and a Cubs fan since they hired Durocher, was waiting for WS ticks to be published so i could drive up and watch a couple games in Wrigley. Man, was i bummed when they collapsed - especially when the gd Mets jumped over the corpse. I believe Brock nursed a grudge against the Cubs, maybe thought they didn't give him a good chance. Recall him during '69 sneering at them and blasting Santo for that "bush-league" trick he had of clicking his heels after a Cubs win.

Brock has a grudge against the Cubs to this day, you would think that he would grateful about being traded away by them. To be fair to John Holland, he did pull the trigger on some very good trades for the Cubs, Fergie Jenkins with the Phillies, Randy Hundley and Bill Hands with the Giants, Larry Jackson with the Cardinals, drafting Glenn Beckert from the Red Sox, but his legacy will always be the Lou Brock trade.

[ALR-bishop]

Cliff---I was unaware Brock had hard feelings towards the Cubs. How has that been demonstrated ? Given his subsequent successes it would seem petty for him to carry some grudge against the Cubs....other than the feeling any Cardinal fan harbors about them

Some of my favorite baseball games over the years were Cub/Cardinals games. I attended games in all 3 "Bush" stadiums.. And despite the rivalry I don't recall any real ugly incidents such as occurred in the LA/SF game not long back.

And, before Harry went over to the dark side we once had both he and Jack Buck doing games

[Robextend]

Thanks Al!

A couple Sterling Sports pickups:

[jb217676]

Nice cards Rob! Here's a Boggs RC.

[Volod]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Brock has a grudge against the Cubs to this day, you would think that he would grateful about being traded away by them. To be fair to John Holland, he did pull the trigger on some very good trades for the Cubs, Fergie Jenkins with the Phillies, Randy Hundley and Bill Hands with the Giants, Larry Jackson with the Cardinals, drafting Glenn Beckert from the Red Sox, but his legacy will always be the Lou Brock trade.

....no Frank Lane was he. Now let me sob in my beer about trades made from my local team by the Trader. Trying to think of one that actually helped - someone other than the Yankees, that is.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Cliff---I was unaware Brock had hard feelings towards the Cubs. How has that been demonstrated ? Given his subsequent successes it would seem petty for him to carry some grudge against the Cubs....other than the feeling any Cardinal fan harbors about them

Some of my favorite baseball games over the years were Cub/Cardinals games. I attended games in all 3 "Bush" stadiums.. And despite the rivalry I don't recall any real ugly incidents such as occurred in the LA/SF game not long back.

And, before Harry went over to the dark side we once had both he and Jack Buck doing games

Granted the pictured article is from 1977, but this is an excerpt from an article written July 14, 2010 in Chicago Sports Memories: ' "If I'd been here [in Chicago]," Brock later said, "the Cubs would have won the pennant in '68 and '69." He was being immodest, but he was probably right. '

[ALR-bishop]

Thanks for posting that Cliff

[Volod]

Yes, great reading - the old rotating coach system, what an innovative stroke of genius. Can't recall who those guys were - was Charlie Grimm on that staff?

[ALR-bishop]

He sure was a imposing figure on his 1960 Topps card

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Volod

Yes, great reading - the old rotating coach system, what an innovative stroke of genius. Can't recall who those guys were - was Charlie Grimm on that staff?

He was, but he was never the "head coach" under that system. There were twenty four coaches during the "College of Coaches" experiment from 1961 through 1965, with six of them being "head coach" at various times.

[CW]

^^^ Wow, great March pickups, guys!

[Robextend]

[novakjr]

Bunch of stuff recently. I'll only post the interesting stuff though.

[bcbgcbrcb]

Nice Vlad RC, David.

[novakjr]

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

Nice Vlad RC, David.

Thanks Phil. It's one of those cards that I always wanted, but was always a little higher than I wanted to pay...Finally found a nice one for a good price..

[Robextend]

Nice cards David!!