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Someone already posted the averages of DH hitters around the league. They were not very high. The line ups are clearly better in the American League. Again, I will use the example of the free agent NL powerhouse pitcher who AL teams are reluctant to sign because they aren't sure how good they will be. That's because the AL is a stronger hitting league and it's not because of one additional guy.
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so Kershaw would suck in the NL i guess.....plus its very common guys in the NL that have gotten no-nos like Heston....if the hitting is so weak in the NL...then again, that would support my argument that NL no hitters dont compare to AL no hitters ...so i guess you are supporting my argument in another way.... Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 05-11-2016 at 08:03 AM. |
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What other answer do you expect? The AL is a superior hitting league in general. It's not the DH that makes the difference. The entire team is better in the box because the AL game is geared towards high scoring games whereas the NL game is geared toward small ball. It's not just the pitcher who bunts in the NL. Everyone is counted on for a bunt. Hardly anyone bunts in the AL. It's a different game but it's not one guy who makes the difference.
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You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. He's convinced he's right, and nothing is going to convince him otherwise.
"There have been more no hitters in the NL the last few years...pitchers hit in the NL....therefore, the lack of a designated hitter in the NL is responsible for the increase in no hitters!" That is about as specious as logic gets. Never mind that between 2010 and 2012, in nine of the sixteen no hitters, it was an American League team being blanked. And the same DH configuration was in place then. It couldn't be that the pitchers that have been throwing the no hitters in the NL are the best pitchers in the game, could it? Of the thirteen no hitters thrown since the start of the 2014 season, five have been thrown in the NL by recent Cy Young Award winners: Clayton Kershaw (one), Max Scherzer (two), Jake Arrieta (two). Four of the last seven have been by Scherzer and Arrieta. Since the start of 2014, seven of the top ten pitchers in baseball by ERA + (50 minimum starts) have been in the National League: Kershaw, Arrieta, Greinke, de Grom, Cueto, Harvey and Scherzer (Scherzer was in Detroit in '14, but has been in Washington since). Quote:
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even the chris heston's of the world have a great start or two in a year.....its on these one or two starts in which the pitcher hitting makes a big difference..and evidently the lineups are much better in the AL according to others in this thread 17 of the last 20 no hitters have been in the national league..... Arreta and Scherzer and Cueto, Grenike were in the AL at one time......why arent the AL cy young winners getting no hitters at the same rate as the NL counterparts... the fact you really cant compare AL era to NL era (7 out of 10 era leaders in NL you stated ) because NL era is going to be lower shows again its easier to obtain runs in the AL..... the other poster clearly doesnt think NL pitching translates to the AL..... Heston didnt win a cy young... ross stripling and adam conley with their 'almost no hitter' and the reason for this thread arent cy young worthy....thats my point...all of these almost no hitters in the NL is annoying.....AL no hitters is a whole different animal .. Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 05-11-2016 at 09:34 AM. |
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You aren't taking into account who is being no hit. When David Cone threw his perfect game it was against the Expos, who were in the NL. This is just an example. If an NL pitcher throws a no hitter against an AL team, or vice-versa, I don't know what your premise means in terms of an AL no hitter being worth more.
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Oh, brother.
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wouldnt that mean an NL no hitter is clearly not as valuable as a AL no hitter.? i dont see how your argument is against my premise that AL no hitters should count much more than NL no hitters...... |
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